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Israel at war

Frankfooter

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So you are saying that you support that Gazans continue to die at an alarming rate.
No, stop with the gaslighting.
I support a ceasefire.
I support investigations on both sides for all war crimes committed.
I support sanctions to end apartheid.
I support giving Palestinians the vote and full human rights.

I do not support more deaths like you do.

You are part of a tiny and racist minority.
 

Frankfooter

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They have found Israel clearly in violation, agreed.
They have only found Hamas in clear violation of the general provision against endangering civilians and stated they were unable to confirm some of the specific instances brought up of human shielding.
Amnesty International, for instance, notes that they don't have proof of Hamas moving civilians to cover military objectives, only of Hamas setting up military objectives in places with civilians.

You may be comfortable splitting that hair.
I am not.
Post the report, I've read quite a few and haven't seen that accusation.

Amnesty and the UN also have stated that:
Israel is apartheid - war crime
The blockade is illegal - war crime
All settlements are illegal - war crime
The occupation is illegal - war crime.

And has also been noted, the argument that Hamas is using human shields does not allow Israel to then justify targeting civilians. That is still a war crime.

I'd fully support Hamas being investigated by the ICC, should they ever get their shit together, for targeting civilians as human shields.
Just as I fully support Israel being investigated for the same crimes plus the others listed there.

Hold both sides to the law.
Ceasefire
End apartheid.
 

richaceg

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It is the right kind of state though. Should be everybody's wet dream lol. A secular, democratic state where everyone has equal rights and safety. Much like Canada.
So tell me..does hamas exercise democracy since they became the ruling party?
 
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richaceg

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We are not talking about Hamas doing anything or being incharge in an ideal state.
What donyou think will happen to Israel when the majority you're talking about has their way in a "democracy"? What do you think will happen to the jews? The talking points here are simply "75 years of oppression and occupation where in reality, it goes beyond 75 years that jews were the receiving end of that claim.
 
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Frankfooter

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What donyou think will happen to Israel when the majority you're talking about has their way in a "democracy"? What do you think will happen to the jews? The talking points here are simply "75 years of oppression and occupation where in reality, it goes beyond 75 years that jews were the receiving end of that claim.
Is your argument that Israel attacking Gaza for 17 years, with bombs and blockade has made them so angry you don't think they can live peacefully with Israelis so you need to keep dropping more bombs on them?

That's pretty fucked up.
Just stop dropping bombs on civlians.
Stop the genocide.
 
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