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basketcase

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So now not only do the settler colonialists in Israel want all of Palestine they want to colonize Jordan to get rid of their own Palestinian refugee problem?
Wow.

If you're not going to give the land back just give all Palestinians under Israeli rule equal rights, including the vote.
Of course Jordan is ruled by foreigners installed by the Brits (an non-issue for you of course).

And will you ever admit that Palestinians overwhelmingly detest your bullshit idea of forcing them to live alongside Jews?
 

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p.s. I see you chose not co comment on Islamic Jihad shooting up a bunch of Jews on their way to pray.
 

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Yet still true. Gay people are still widely persecuted under the PA and even more so under Hamas and Israel even accepts LGBT Palestinians as refugees.

Your whining might carry some weight if you ever addressed the human rights abuses by the two Palestinian governments.
HRW just came out with a report on prisoner abuse by the PA.
Apparently they treat prisoners as badly as Israel does.
I fully support them being investigated by the ICC and charged based on this report

Now would you support an investigation into Israeli torture?
Not a chance.
 

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And will you ever admit that Palestinians overwhelmingly detest your bullshit idea of forcing them to live alongside Jews?
So you're saying that the almost equal rights inside the green line are a disaster and you don't believe Palestinians/Israeli Arabs can live with Jews?
Not surprising you'd say that.

No wonder you support apartheid.
 

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So you're saying that the almost equal rights inside the green line are a disaster and you don't believe Palestinians/Israeli Arabs can live with Jews?
Not surprising you'd say that.
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Not surprising you utterly lie about everything since there is nor merit to your arguments, nor is their any kind of moral consistency.

Israeli Arabs overwhelmingly want to remain Israelis.

Palestinians in the West Bank, Gaza, or locked in Arab camps overwhelmingly don't want to be Israeli no matter how much you want to force them into it. This is just another case where you show the same white saviour attitude that Amnesty UK identified in their own organization. Polling says a One State peace is the preferred option of only 6% of Palestinians and the most recent poll of UNWRA refugees had less than 10% wanting a peace where they 'return' to Israel.

In your elitism, you ignore what Palestinians want because you think you know better and you refuse to criticize any of their actions because either you agree with what they do or you think Palestinians are incapable of making their own choices.
 

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p.s. I see you chose not co comment on Islamic Jihad shooting up a bunch of Jews on their way to pray.
And still waiting Franky. Are you incapable of criticizing Palestinian Islamic Jihad for shooting at Jews going to pray?
 

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Palestinians in the West Bank, Gaza, or locked in Arab camps overwhelmingly don't want to be Israeli no matter how much you want to force them into it. This is just another case where you show the same white saviour attitude that Amnesty UK identified in their own organization. Polling says a One State peace is the preferred option of only 6% of Palestinians and the most recent poll of UNWRA refugees had less than 10% wanting a peace where they 'return' to Israel.

In your elitism, you ignore what Palestinians want because you think you know better and you refuse to criticize any of their actions because either you agree with what they do or you think Palestinians are incapable of making their own choices.
The one state apartheid solution is in place now.
The two state solution is dead.

70% of Palestinians say the two state solution is dead.
Support for the concept of the two-state solution stands at 28% and opposition stands at 69%.

I support the one state solution as its the most peaceful solution. Peace talks have been dead for almost a decade now and Israel continues to colonize what is left of what could have been Palestine. Palestinians rightfully don't trust Israelis so now support violence as their best option. The reports from HRW, Amnesty and B'tselem haven't changed international opinion yet.
Unfortunately for peace, the only thing that did move the dial in their favour was Hamas'' defence against Israeli aggressions in Jerusalem and the Al Aqsa Mosque last summer.

Last summer's attack on Jerusalem and Gaza and Hamas' response which lead to global protests and links with the BLM movement taught them a lesson.
A majority of 59% says that the armed attack inside Israel carried out by Palestinians unaffiliated with known armed groups contributes to the national interest of ending the occupation;

Congrats, this is just as you want it.
An apartheid state where the natives keep responding with violence so you can keep calling them 'terrorists' when they use self defence.

77% believe that the chances for the creation of a Palestinian state alongside the state of Israel in the next five years are slim or nonexistence
Also
Congrats, your apartheid state is as violent and racist as you've dreamed it could be.
 

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Anti Jewish terrorists confront Jews in front of supermarket yelling anti-jewish slogans and other anti-jewish pro-terrorist propaganda




Pro-Palestine demonstrators screamed “Free Palestine,” yelled antisemitic slurs, and intimidated Jews in Vaughan, ON, outside a plaza with Jewish businesses.
“This is NOT anti Zionism —it’s a blatant act of #antisemitic hate which must be condemned by everyone,” said Conservative MP Melissa Lantsman in a Friday tweet.


Lantsman said people “do not come to a Jewish neighbourhood and yell anti-Semitic tropes if it isn’t about hating Jews.” She went on to say police forces across Canada need to start treating incidents like this one as hate crimes.
Lantsman claimed protestors were soon after arrested by York Regional Police (YRP) for holding this protest.

“Trust this antisemitic hate parade in our community is punished by the fullest extent of the law,” she said.


Former Canadian ambassador to Israel Vivian Bercovici said incidents like this one are a regular occurance around Toronto.
“Where’s the outrage? @JustinTrudeau @melaniejoly @AnitaAnandMP @karinagould?” said Bercovici.

“Will one of you, your colleagues, condemn this?”

YRP media relations officer Laura Nicolle said one person was arrested for breach of the peace at this protest, but she is unaware at this time of any other offences committed.
“Our role during a protest is to monitor the situation, ensure the safety of our citizens, and respond as needed if an offence occurs, while respecting the fundamental rights under the Charter of Rights and Freedoms,” said Nicolle.
Nicolle said while police may investigate offences as hate motivated, there is no charge under the Criminal Code of Canada enabling them to arrest people regarding hate except if another offence is happening.
A new record was set for antisemitic incidents in Canada for the sixth year in a row in 2021, an increase of 7.2% from the previous year, according to the 40th Annual Audit of Antisemitic Incidents by B’nai Brith Canada.
“Despite the dismal numbers posted in 2021, there is always hope for improvement,” said B’nai Brith Canada CEO Michael Mostyn.
“Better reporting of hate crimes and incidents, better training and resources for police departments to recognize and combat antisemitism, may all make a difference, if achieved.”
About eight antisemitic incidents occurred every day in Canada. There was a 733% uptick in violent antisemitic attacks compared to 2020.

Pro-Palestine protestors confront Jews in Ontario city | News | westernstandard.news
 

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Anti Jewish terrorists confront Jews in front of supermarket yelling anti-jewish slogans and other anti-jewish pro-terrorist propaganda

Pro-Palestine demonstrators screamed “Free Palestine,”
Its an occupation or apartheid rule.
How is shouting 'Free Palestine' racist in any form?

You've totally lost it.
 

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CUNY anti-Israel open letter pledging to ‘unlearn Zionism’ slammed by Jewish leaders

A letter signed by students and staff at City University of New York (CUNY) was denounced by Jewish leader for pledging to create programs to “unlearn Zionism.”

The open letter, titled “Not In Our Name,” called for “resistance by any means necessary” for Palestinian Arabs, alleged that Israel was engaged in “ethnic cleanings” and “funds Nazi militia groups” and castigated and rejected the IHRA definition, which has been widely adopted by governments at all levels internationally, as “a ploy to demonize anti-Zionist and Palestinian freedom of speech,” the Jewish Chronicle reported.

The letter, written by campus BDS and anti-Israel activists, attempted to force CUNY officials into supporting BDS “without question.”

It also demanded an end to “all methods of normalization with Zionist entities and organizations” while pledging to bring in anti-Zionist speakers “to show young adult Jewish youth that Zionism is not the only way.”

While the letter claimed that it had the backing of “Jewish anti-Zionist students, faculty and groups at CUNY,” many of the groups signing the letter were not Jewish, such as the “League of Young Communists” and “Rank and File Action.”

The letter also alleged that pro-Israel staff and students at CUNY “aim to criminalize and demonize Palestinian students and workers” and called on the university ends its relationship with Hillel, claiming that the student organization is an “anti-Black, anti-Indigenous, Islamophobic, and anti-Palestinian organization.”

The signatories of the letter further called for the creation of “networks and programs within the CUNY Jewish population to question, critique, and unlearn Zionism."

The letter was widely condemned by Jewish leaders and pro-Israel staff and students at CUNY.

Jewish Journal columnist Blake Flayton compared the letter to anti-Jewish Soviet propaganda.

“Throwbacks to Soviet re-education campaigns to un-Jew the Jews,” he tweeted.

Campaign Against Antisemitism’s Binyomin Gilbert tweeted: “Nice of them, ‘educate the savages.’”

 

basketcase

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Its an occupation or apartheid rule.
How is shouting 'Free Palestine' racist in any form?

You've totally lost it.
And what exactly does that have to do with harassing Canadian shoppers and business because they happen to be Jewish owned?

Go and shout "free Palestine" all you want but when you target people simply because they are Jewish, you are being overtly racist. As I said earlier, it would be racist to target a mosque or shawarma shop for criticism of ISIS. What make sit any less racist to blame random Jews for your obsession with Israel?
 

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And what exactly does that have to do with harassing Canadian shoppers and business because they happen to be Jewish owned?

Go and shout "free Palestine" all you want but when you target people simply because they are Jewish, you are being overtly racist. As I said earlier, it would be racist to target a mosque or shawarma shop for criticism of ISIS. What make sit any less racist to blame random Jews for your obsession with Israel?
Palestinians live under apartheid occupation.
Protesting against apartheid is the morally correct thing to do.

If you were to push your support of apartheid publicly you should also be protested.

 

basketcase

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Palestinians live under apartheid occupation.
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Do you think that your opinion somehow justifies the racist targeting of Jews around the world? Thankfully Canada considers your statements explicitly anti-Semitic.

Of course you can't defend you racist views so you try and change the topic once again.
 

Frankfooter

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Do you think that your opinion somehow justifies the racist targeting of Jews around the world? Thankfully Canada considers your statements explicitly anti-Semitic.

Of course you can't defend you racist views so you try and change the topic once again.
You are pushing an antisemitic trope by trying to say that protesting apartheid is an attack on the Jewish people instead of protesting the policies of the government.
That's a racist trope, stop it.

There are numerous Jewish groups that are against apartheid and the occupation and you know it.
Those groups support Palestinians protesting for basic human rights.

 
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