1, 242 new cases today: https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toro...rus-ontario-november-9-peel-testing-1.5795027
Some masks better than others
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So basically Mrs. Tam confirms I'm right.
The vast majority of masks people are wearing right now are insufficient.
So nice to be proven right again
What Tam said was the ABC's about masks, simple common sense & known months ago.So basically Mrs. Tam confirms I'm right.
The vast majority of masks people are wearing right now are insufficient.
So nice to be proven right again
Define what it means for a mask to be "insufficient".
No mask is 100% sufficient.
Over 99% of masks being worn have significant effectiveness. They reduce infections & save lives.
If you want closer to 100% protection wear a hazmat suit 24 hours a day or move to the South Pole, lol.
As i posted elsewhere re the same, it is just common sense & something that many have been saying since months ago.
Of course 2 layers is better than 1 layer & 3 layers are better than 2 layers & 5 layers are better than 4 layers, etc.
Furthermore KN95 & medical-surgical type masks have been available in Canadian stores for a long time already.
You have so little understanding of science or reality. To bad that study includes people who , wore masks improperly, reused or didn't wash masks, frequently touched their masks, and people who lied about wearing masks (and the last one is a big one - after catching a contagious disease, how many people would admit to a doctor that they were stupid?).Whats this??
CDC Study Finds Overwhelming Majority Of People Getting Coronavirus Wore Masks
Over 70 percent of the case-patients who were contaminated with the virus fell ill despite "always" wearing a mask.thefederalist.com
https://thefederalist.com/2020/10/1...ity-of-people-getting-coronavirus-wore-masks/
Actual studies of particle flow through masks are 100% clear that any mask helps reduce the chances of infection with 3-ply polypro surgical masks and N95 reducing the transmission by a significant percent.
This video quite clearly explains your sense of logic.Not only are masks not working, new infection rate in Ontario is actually getting much worse now.
1,328 new cases today, and its not even Flu season yet:
Ontario reports record number of new coronavirus cases for 2nd straight day | Globalnews.ca
"Locally, there are 434 new cases in Toronto, 385 in Peel, 105 in York Region, 71 in Ottawa, 68 in Hamilton and 56 in Durham," Health Minister Christine Elliott said.globalnews.ca
By random community transmission I am sure you mean there is no transmission in malls, restaurants, bars, schools, gyms, and so on.
As for red herring learn what the definition of terms are before you use them.
Lockdowns absolutely do have an affect on the rate of infections, and so do masks, unfortunately people like you regardless of how many times these scientific facts are proven to them will go and find some looney tune to listen to and use his anecdotal evidence as the oppoiste.
Not one bit correct masks were mandated in July, most businesses that were open prior had already wide use of masks enforced way before and started re opening since the end of May and June across Ontario with all of Ontario being in phase 3 by mid July.No they dont. Our 2nd wave in Ontario is much worse. Masks clearly arent making any difference
The number of cases did not start to go up until 2 months later and skyrocket until roughly 3 months later due to other significant factors which you have very little understanding of.
Their is no direct corelation between mandates of masks and number of cases increasing in Ontario, unless one "Stable Genius" is trying to claim the increase in cases roughly 3 months later is due to use or mandate of masks.
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Give me a quote that says "Masks don't work", not which ones work better.
You are ignorant on the meaning of "covidiot" which extrapolates to the topic as a whole.
Macmillian Dictionary defines “covidiot” as “an insulting term for someone who ignores health advice about COVID-19." Urban Dictionary takes a pretty similar approach, defining “covidiot” as “someone who ignores the warnings regarding public health or safety. A person who hoards goods, denying them from their neighbors.”
Now you're just making excuses.
Fact remains (as Dr. Tam says) most masks worn by people in Toronto right now are not effective.
Exactly what I've been preaching over the last couple of weeks
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Wrong on all counts. You can't even read a graph properly, and you have no comprehension of incubation periods
Ontario sets a new record today with 1,388 cases:
www.cp24.com
Ford asks Ontarians to be on 'high alert' as another record number of COVID-19 cases is reported
Ontario is reporting another record high for new COVID-19 cases, marking the third time since this weekend that an alarming new record has been reached.
www.cp24.com
Where does Tam say that? The words "effective" and "insufficient" did not appear in my search of the article you referred to:
What Tam said was the ABC's about masks, simple common sense & known months ago.
Define what it means for a mask to be "insufficient".
No mask is 100% sufficient.
Over 99% of masks being worn have significant effectiveness. They reduce infections & save lives.
If you want closer to 100% protection wear a hazmat suit 24 hours a day or move to the South Pole, lol.
As usual your posts are full of so much evidence proving otherwise
.Here are the facts non essential businsses started reopening mid May, there was already widespread use of masks in businesses when they reopened, and in the province we were in stage 3 in early to mid July.
We did not start to see a significant increase in cases (upward trend) until mid September and we did not see a skyrocketing of cases until late September-early October, again all of these are explained due to other factors but as usual you have a lack of understanding of scientific facts and data.
Everyone other than you can see it wasn't "almost immediately skyrocketing of cases" like you claimed or what you claimed after to be 4-6 weeks later, it was over 12 weeks later cases started skyrocketing. Of course your reading of a graph is quite different than everyone else.
You're so wrong on so many levelsAs usual your posts are full of so much evidence proving otherwise
Here are the facts non essential businsses started reopening mid May, there was already widespread use of masks in businesses when they reopened, and in the province we were in stage 3 in early to mid July.
We did not start to see a significant increase in cases (upward trend) until mid September and we did not see a skyrocketing of cases until late September-early October, again all of these are explained due to other factors but as usual you have a lack of understanding of scientific facts and data.
Everyone other than you can see it wasn't "almost immediately skyrocketing of cases" like you claimed or what you claimed after to be 4-6 weeks later, it was over 12 weeks later cases started skyrocketing. Of course your reading of a graph is quite different than everyone else.
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Your nonsense exposed & refuted:
lol what?
Red Herring = info that is intended to be misleading or distracting
So um yeah pretty much on the nose
Lockdowns have not in any way prevented or reduced transmission
We are setting record highs right now DESPITE Peel (and Toronto) being in the "red zone" for lockdowns and tons of shit closed
Science is even on our side (finally) as we yelled for months a paper / cloth mask was useless and now even CDC / Health Canada / WHO have updated guidelines (Canada of course as always being last)
But but how??? They have their masks. And their social distancing. And their lockdowns.Ontario sets a new record today with 1,388 cases:
Ford asks Ontarians to be on 'high alert' as another record number of COVID-19 cases is reported
Ontario is reporting another record high for new COVID-19 cases, marking the third time since this weekend that an alarming new record has been reached.
You would think by this point even the densest Covidiot would have figured out the ridiculous guidelines are absurd
You know what this entire scenario reminds me of?
You know that kids story The Emperors New Clothes?
Tell me that does not describe Emperor Trudope to a T
Covid has basically run its course you can see how few people are even going to hospital much less dying worldwide these days
