Leafs 2023-2024 Thread
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WTF, the Leafs just lost 4 games in a row. Tavares not earning his pay. Why are we paying these guys so much and keep losing?
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You stalk me. You reference me randomly. That's a penthouse suite in your head that you have for me to live in. LOL.
At exactly the half way point of their schedule the Leafs have a .500 at regulation, hardly a contender calibre. What they’ve done really well is in the skill competitions in ot and shootouts. They had 4 ot wins and 4 shootout wins for a total of 16 points which if I’m not mistaken is the most any team got. These extra points allow them to hang on to a playoff spot. Further proof that this team is built for the regular season.
Some like to believe anything can happen in the playoffs and cited the Panthers and Kings‘ runs to the cup. Unfortunately these teams all had some common qualities which have been missing from this Leaf team over the last 6 seasons, i e great goaltending, great team defensive structure and the ability to play a physical and mean style.
Treliving has been trying to add more gritty guys but somehow i don’t think Keefe has been able to put that added grittiness into good use. The team’s defence structure has also been questioned and maybe this team now needs a new coach to steer them into the right direction.
Some like to believe anything can happen in the playoffs and cited the Panthers and Kings‘ runs to the cup. Unfortunately these teams all had some common qualities which have been missing from this Leaf team over the last 6 seasons, i e great goaltending, great team defensive structure and the ability to play a physical and mean style.
Treliving has been trying to add more gritty guys but somehow i don’t think Keefe has been able to put that added grittiness into good use. The team’s defence structure has also been questioned and maybe this team now needs a new coach to steer them into the right direction.
I have long want a new coach for the Leafs. Keefe is a good coach but not the right coach for such a team with many young team members. Time for him to go.
Tavares has not been earning his pay and the Leafs should just let him leave after becoming a free agent. They need a new dynamic team leader.
The Leafs need to revamp their strategy. Put fore most importance in brining in a top notch goalie, followed by beefing up defence. No need to spend any more on the forwards. They have spent way more than they actually produce and have not been proving they are worth their paid.
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Leafs are 8 wins and 8 losses in OT. That is hardly doing well. What they did well aside from the last 3 games was not lose in regulation but to get it to OT. Bank the point and play for the extra. Even if they lost all 3 of those games in OT rather than regulation that's 3 points they gave away. Especially with leads in all 3 of them. Huge difference in the standings. It would have put them on par with teams like Florida and Carolina. Now they're in the group with 6 other teams in the Wild Card race. Montreal is 9 and 7 in OT. That's better than the Leafs. With all their supposed skill they should have a much better OT record.
Prior to losing their last 3 games in regulation they had only 10 regulation losses.
Boston has 9, Winnipeg has 10, and Vancouver has 11. These are 3 Division leaders.
All other teams have more than 11 regulation losses.
Leafs were elite in not losing in regulation until their last 3 game skid. All with leads to boot.
Prior to losing their last 3 games in regulation they had only 10 regulation losses.
Boston has 9, Winnipeg has 10, and Vancouver has 11. These are 3 Division leaders.
All other teams have more than 11 regulation losses.
Leafs were elite in not losing in regulation until their last 3 game skid. All with leads to boot.
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Don't forget the Habs who made it to the Cup Finals only to lose to a team with a $95mm payroll (yes, I know the players don't get paid for the playoffs).
You call them “elite “ for being .500 in regulation and their inability to protect leads ?
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You obviously missed the point
You were incorrect to view Leafs as a good OT team.
8 wins and 8 losses is not a good OT team.
Not losing in regulation got them to OT 16 times. Should be 19.
Elite at not losing in regulation prior to the last 3 games.
Which part of this statement did you not comprehend.
Prior to the last 3 games they were not .500 in regulation.
Prior to the last 3 games they had only 10 regulation losses.
Winnipeg has 10 regulation losses. Vancouver has 11 regulation losses.
I never called them an elite team. I called them elite at not losing in regulation prior to the last 3 games.
Not losing in regulation the last 3 games would have gotten them 3 more points.
If the league gives out points for losing then the smart thing to do is to take it.
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You call them “elite “ for being .500 in regulation and their inability to protect leads ?
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Superstar's whole post is so stupid it's mind-numbing.
His argument is that if you discount 1/3 of the Leafs loses and don't count those, then they've got regulation loses comparable to Vancouver and Winnipeg.
Let's try looking at wins instead of loses - forget this "the smart thing to do is to get it to OT" bullshit, which is what you'd do if you're incapable of winning.
Half way through the season the Leafs have won 13 games in regulation time.
Vancouver and Winnipeg have both won 27 games in regulation. That's the difference.
You obviously missed the point
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That was your point. You summed up your long post with your last two statements.
Superstar's whole post is so stupid it's mind-numbing.
His argument is that if you discount 1/3 of the Leafs loses and don't count those, then they've got regulation loses comparable to Vancouver and Winnipeg.
Let's try looking at wins instead of loses - forget this "the smart thing to do is to get it to OT" bullshit, which is what you'd do if you're incapable of winning.
Half way through the season the Leafs have won 13 games in regulation time.
Vancouver and Winnipeg have both won 27 games in regulation. That's the difference.
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He just threw up a smoke screen and tried to convince us that this Leaf team is elite at what they’re doing.
That was your point. You summed up your long post with your last two statements.
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elite “ for being .500 in regulation
This was your statement and summation not mine so you obviously missed the point ... again
elite “ for being .500 in regulation
This was your statement and summation not mine so you obviously missed the point ... again
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‘The last line of your post #975 was :
“ Leafs were elite in not losing in regulation until their last 3 game skid. All with leads to boot. “
These are your own words, not mine.
‘The last line of your post #975 was :
“ Leafs were elite in not losing in regulation until their last 3 game skid. All with leads to boot. “
These are your own words, not mine.
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... and if you consider Leafs a good OT team at 8 wins and 8 losses then I can see how you can miss the point and come up with this ludicrous summation that Leafs are an elite team. They are 21 wins and 21 losses for christ's sake. That is an average team.
I'm not going to try to explain it to you cause you won't be able to comprehend.
Being elite at not losing in regulation does not necessarily mean you win a lot of games.
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You picked on me saying that they did very well in getting 16 points in ot because you were pissed that I said all those negative things (which were true) about the Leafs, and you’re just beating around the bush trying to mask a very mediocre team as an elite team.
I’m a Leaf fan but I resent the fact that there are many obnoxious fans like you that give a bad name to all Leaf fans. It’s fans like you that turn many casual fans into haters. Being a fan doesn’t mean you can’t be critical but it’s a concept that’s beyond your comprehension.
I’m a Leaf fan but I resent the fact that there are many obnoxious fans like you that give a bad name to all Leaf fans. It’s fans like you that turn many casual fans into haters. Being a fan doesn’t mean you can’t be critical but it’s a concept that’s beyond your comprehension.
Terb is like the motley crew. There's the good, the bad and the ugly. In my case, I try to limit my interactions to the intelligent/rational/civil posters like yourself.
