Leafs 2023-2024 Thread

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So quiet here when the Leafs are floundering. Where’s Reaves when we need a scapegoat?

Where‘s that new “sticking up for each other attitude “ after your best player was cross checked in the ribs ?
I think Matthews is playing hurt after that crosscheck. The ribs gotta be sore.
 

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Under Keefe it’s always the same story, our player gets a cheap shot nothing happens. Whenever one of our guys throws a big hit he has to answer the bell and takes some punches. It happened to McCabe and Benoit. Keefe’s only response is to yell at the refs.
 

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Under Keefe it’s always the same story, our player gets a cheap shot nothing happens. Whenever one of our guys throws a big hit he has to answer the bell and takes some punches. It happened to McCabe and Benoit. Keefe’s only response is to yell at the refs.
Yeah, I was surprised that Mathews and Rielly have a total of only 6 PIM.

In other Maple Leaf social news. Are they or aren't they?
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Oilers are the hottest team right now. 10-0-0 in their last 10. They are primed for an upset by the Leafs.
 
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All-time Leafs goals:

1. Sundin 420
2. Sittler 389
3. Keon 365
4. Matthews 333

Will Matthews catch Keon this season?
 

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Yeah, I was surprised that Mathews and Rielly have a total of only 6 PIM.

In other Maple Leaf social news. Are they or aren't they?
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I have no complaints about the way these two have been playing. They’ve been the Leafs’ best players along with Nylander, up until he signed his multi million extension anyway. Kudos to them for not taking dumb penalties.

The two guys who are not earning their pay imo are Brodie and Tavares.

Brodie is all about playing position and stick checking. Very seldom you see him engage in physical puck battles or knock a guy down in front of the next or along the boards. He is no where near as a shut down d man and that’s why the Leafs haven’t been able to protect leads with him playing major minutes in those situations. He has minimal Offensive contributions. If he’s a 2 million or less player then it would be decent value, but for 5 millions he has way too little to offer.

Since getting his 1000 point Tavares has been awful. It seems he’s always behind the play and gets caught from behind. He’s never been known for being a fast skater and it looks to me that he has lost a step this season. Maybe he’s suffering from some sort of nagging injury that we don’t know of and hopefully he can bounce back. He’s been fortunate to have the opportunity to play with the Matthews/Marner/Nylander/Rielly combo and produce the numbers, but he’d be lucky to get half of that had he stayed in Long Island. The Leafs could have saved 5 millions by keeping Kadri instead and he would have produced similar numbers playing with the aforementioned combo.

I probably have ruffled some feathers on the fans of Brodie and Tavares, but that‘s the way I see things and I welcome any different opinions.
 
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Just to prove my points further, on the Hyman called back goal , Brodie just stationed there and tried to stick check instead of taking the body. Hyman just skated around him and scored. On the Oilers’ first goal it took Tavares a million years to skate back but couldn’t get there in time to cover Draisiatle.
 

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WTF, the Leafs just lost 4 games in a row. Tavares not earning his pay. Why are we paying these guys so much and keep losing?

CP
 

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The Leafs have to improve their team speed (post Captain Obvious pic here)..
 

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At exactly the half way point of their schedule the Leafs have a .500 at regulation, hardly a contender calibre. What they’ve done really well is in the skill competitions in ot and shootouts. They had 4 ot wins and 4 shootout wins for a total of 16 points which if I’m not mistaken is the most any team got. These extra points allow them to hang on to a playoff spot. Further proof that this team is built for the regular season.

Some like to believe anything can happen in the playoffs and cited the Panthers and Kings‘ runs to the cup. Unfortunately these teams all had some common qualities which have been missing from this Leaf team over the last 6 seasons, i e great goaltending, great team defensive structure and the ability to play a physical and mean style.

Treliving has been trying to add more gritty guys but somehow i don’t think Keefe has been able to put that added grittiness into good use. The team’s defence structure has also been questioned and maybe this team now needs a new coach to steer them into the right direction.
 

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At exactly the half way point of their schedule the Leafs have a .500 at regulation, hardly a contender calibre. What they’ve done really well is in the skill competitions in ot and shootouts. They had 4 ot wins and 4 shootout wins for a total of 16 points which if I’m not mistaken is the most any team got. These extra points allow them to hang on to a playoff spot. Further proof that this team is built for the regular season.

Some like to believe anything can happen in the playoffs and cited the Panthers and Kings‘ runs to the cup. Unfortunately these teams all had some common qualities which have been missing from this Leaf team over the last 6 seasons, i e great goaltending, great team defensive structure and the ability to play a physical and mean style.

Treliving has been trying to add more gritty guys but somehow i don’t think Keefe has been able to put that added grittiness into good use. The team’s defence structure has also been questioned and maybe this team now needs a new coach to steer them into the right direction.
I have long want a new coach for the Leafs. Keefe is a good coach but not the right coach for such a team with many young team members. Time for him to go.

Tavares has not been earning his pay and the Leafs should just let him leave after becoming a free agent. They need a new dynamic team leader.

The Leafs need to revamp their strategy. Put fore most importance in brining in a top notch goalie, followed by beefing up defence. No need to spend any more on the forwards. They have spent way more than they actually produce and have not been proving they are worth their paid.

CP
 
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Other than coaching there also have been some poor individual performances during this bad stretch. I’ve hopped on Tavares and Brodie, Jones allowed a couple of softies and didn’t make any key saves, Nylander and Bertuzzi have been no show.
 

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Leafs are 8 wins and 8 losses in OT. That is hardly doing well. What they did well aside from the last 3 games was not lose in regulation but to get it to OT. Bank the point and play for the extra. Even if they lost all 3 of those games in OT rather than regulation that's 3 points they gave away. Especially with leads in all 3 of them. Huge difference in the standings. It would have put them on par with teams like Florida and Carolina. Now they're in the group with 6 other teams in the Wild Card race. Montreal is 9 and 7 in OT. That's better than the Leafs. With all their supposed skill they should have a much better OT record.

Prior to losing their last 3 games in regulation they had only 10 regulation losses.
Boston has 9, Winnipeg has 10, and Vancouver has 11. These are 3 Division leaders.
All other teams have more than 11 regulation losses.
Leafs were elite in not losing in regulation until their last 3 game skid. All with leads to boot.
 
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Some like to believe anything can happen in the playoffs and cited the Panthers and Kings‘ runs to the cup.
Don't forget the Habs who made it to the Cup Finals only to lose to a team with a $95mm payroll (yes, I know the players don't get paid for the playoffs).
 
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