Israel at war

shack

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The hospitals are full as people went as refugees thinking they'd be one of the few safe places.
They aren't.
The roads are too bombed now for anyone to travel, too unsafe.
All of which was to be expected when Hamas instigated this war on Oct. 7. You knew right away that things like this would happen, didn't you?
 

y2kmark

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You don't think another group will rise in their ashes after so much death and bombings?
That's the cycle. Are you for us or against us? Well, yes and no. I am 99% behind the USA, but strongly disagree with supplying Israel with advanced weapons without any restriction as to their use. There are restrictions on weapons sent to Ukraine. Why present Fux news with talking points on a platter???
 

basketcase

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Palestine has been wiped from that map.
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Its sad that you've decided this moronic statement is your new go-to. The only map Palestine was on was the UN Partition that Arab and Palestinian leadership rejected before Jordan (and Egypt) took it for themselves.

This BS line is just another excuse for you to reject the idea of a negotiated peace.
 
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Because they did in the past and it didn't change anything.
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1) Hamas has never recognize Israel and they are the government of Gaza.
2) The PA sort of recognized Israel but they refused to recognize the Jewish character of Israel. Of course you see the idea of Israel being called a Jewish homeland is racist while you endorse both the PA and Hamas view Palestine as an Islamic state and the Palestinian homeland.
 

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These doctors held a press conference after the attack where they said there were two warning shells fired and they told the IDF they couldn't leave.
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Meanwhile reality undermines the propaganda.

Beyond the radar and video images showing the failed rocket dropping to the ground right before the blast, the Hamas communications saying that it was a PIJ rocket telling is the only visible damage was the fire in the parking lot.


It sure as hell looks like any deaths were the result of fire, there is no crater, and no apparent bomb damage to the hospital buildings.. Either Israeli is dropping fire barrels like Russia and Syria did or the fire was the result of unburnt fuel from a failed rocket.


p.s. The US sure seems to accept Israeli evidence (though I'm sure you'll claim it's just Jews controlling the US)
 

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But you did expect Hamas to sit by after 233 settler terrorist attacks this year?
Do you think it's moral for Hamas to launch an attack years in the making targeting civilians for death and kidnapping because Palestinian and Jewish terrorists keep attacking each other and surrounding civilians?

We all know the reason for the attack is exactly what Hamas has always said it is, they want to get rid of the Jewish presence.
 
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Butler1000

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Of course, par for negotiating with Israel.
In other words, strip yourself down to zero leverage with someone already squeezing your throat, all the military capability in the world,
and the U.S. behind them.
Do as they say, how they say, then they'll think about it.
Not one sided at all is it.
So what you just said here is the attack and taking of hostages is legitimate, as is holding them for leverage.
 

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All of which was to be expected when Hamas instigated this war on Oct. 7. You knew right away that things like this would happen, didn't you?
Everyone knew it would happen again Shack.
Blinken said after the Israeli slaughter in 2021 that the cycle will continue unless there are moves to peace.
Netanyahu heard that and did nothing.

That's why 80% of Israeli Jews blame Netanyahu.

You'd have to be an idiot to think that a 54 year apartheid occupation would not continue to find resistance with no movement towards peace.
 

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JUST IN: The United States Capitol has been taken over inside and outside by pro-Palestine protesters as Rep. Rashida Tlaib spoke with a crowd nearby. Are we only allowed to call people like this insurrections when they are Donald Trump supporters? Police are now making arrests inside the Capitol. Sad day for democracy.
Among the pro-Palestinian protesters are ultra-orthodox anti-Zionist Jews who believe that Jews living in Israel is delaying the arrival of their Messiah. I see them on TikTok all the time protesting against Zionism.

Religion and tribalism has always been, and will always be, the scourge of the Earth...
 

Frankfooter

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Among the pro-Palestinian protesters are ultra-orthodox anti-Zionist Jews who believe that Jews living in Israel is delaying the arrival of their Messiah. I see them on TikTok all the time protesting against Zionism.

Religion and tribalism has always been, and will always be, the scourge of the Earth...
And left wing Jews as well.
Toronto has a long history with left wing Jews, from the Christie Pit riot on.

 
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