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squeezer

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Of course, par for negotiating with Israel.
In other words, strip yourself down to zero leverage with someone already squeezing your throat, all the military capability in the world,
and the U.S. behind them.
Do as they say, how they say, then they'll think about it.
Not one sided at all is it.
Well, then the only option for Israel is for Israel to defend itself thanks to the Oct. 7 terrorist act.
 
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Frankfooter

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Maybe because the hospital was so large, and couldn't be evacuated? Were the 24 Health centres full hospitals?

Perhaps some day we'll get the unbiased and unvarnished truth. In the meantime I fully sympathize with the innocents who have been killed or injured on both sides.
The hospitals are full as people went as refugees thinking they'd be one of the few safe places.
They aren't.
The roads are too bombed now for anyone to travel, too unsafe.
 

Frankfooter

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Sorry, I wasn't clear with my post, the website is called Sovereign Limits.
https://sovereignlimits.com/boundaries/egypt-palestine-gaza-land
There is a link where you can buy the brief on the history of countries borders.
Sovereign Limits is the most comprehensive source of land and maritime international boundary data.
All data is up to date as of 2022.
That map says Gaza is occupied by Israel and still not accepted by all parties.
That is as close as they get to saying there is a border of Palestine.
Which means its wiped from their map as well.
 

mellowjello

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They will be eliminated either willingly or by force at the cost of Palestinians but that is how they roll isn't it?
Israeli supremacy at its finest. We will shit on you and if you try to stop us we will destroy you.
I hope your proud that Israel is responsible for another Holocaust.
Worse than Nazis, bragging to the whole world about it.
Ironic isn't it?
 
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PeteOsborne

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That map says Gaza is occupied by Israel and still not accepted by all parties.
That is as close as they get to saying there is a border of Palestine.
Which means its wiped from their map as well.
You must be reading something different than i am.
"The de facto international boundary between Egypt and the western Palestinian territory of Gaza follows the frontier that was first delimited in 1906 by the British and Ottoman Empires. The thirteen kilometer (eight mile) border extends from the Mediterranean Sea to a de facto tripoint with Israel. Since the exit of the two empires in the twentieth century, the status of, and control over, the Egypt–Gaza boundary has been tumultuous. While Palestine does not dispute the location of the boundary, it does not recognize the validity of the agreements used to define the location of the frontier since it has not been party to any of them.
The boundary delimitation was most recently confirmed in the 1979 Peace Treaty between Egypt and Israel, to which Palestine was not a party. In 2005, Israel disengaged from Gaza, and since then the boundary has been maintained by Egypt and Hamas, the de facto governing authority in Gaza. Despite the official disengagement, Israel still maintains a significant amount of control over Gaza’s boundaries and is largely considered by the international community to be an occupying force."
 
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Klatuu

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You don't think another group will rise in their ashes after so much death and bombings?
These guys are too brainwashed and simple to understand that.

The mere act of forcing 1.1 million people to flee for their lives under threat of death within 24 hours is akin to telling everyone in Toronto east of Yonge st to flee to western Toronto….leaving their homes and possessions behind to live in the street with their children.

These people will never forget and the resentment for their disgusting treatment will fester and grow. There will be payback. Anyone who thinks otherwise is beyond delusional.
 
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bggolfingmaniac

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The U.S. will pay dearly for this for years and years to come.
I doubt it. They will be quick to remind any nation chastising it what started this current round of insanity. I find it interesting that people are already forgetting what triggered this - 1500 Jews killed in every unimaginable way, with hundreds kidnapped. Foreign nationals from over 20 countries affected.

What the hell did you expect from Israel? The UN is hopelessly anti-Israel anyways, so it's not like Israel had that as an option to take this fight to.

As an aside, this all fkn sucks.
 

shack

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The hospitals are full as people went as refugees thinking they'd be one of the few safe places.
They aren't.
The roads are too bombed now for anyone to travel, too unsafe.
All of which was to be expected when Hamas instigated this war on Oct. 7. You knew right away that things like this would happen, didn't you?
 

y2kmark

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You don't think another group will rise in their ashes after so much death and bombings?
That's the cycle. Are you for us or against us? Well, yes and no. I am 99% behind the USA, but strongly disagree with supplying Israel with advanced weapons without any restriction as to their use. There are restrictions on weapons sent to Ukraine. Why present Fux news with talking points on a platter???
 

basketcase

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Palestine has been wiped from that map.
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Its sad that you've decided this moronic statement is your new go-to. The only map Palestine was on was the UN Partition that Arab and Palestinian leadership rejected before Jordan (and Egypt) took it for themselves.

This BS line is just another excuse for you to reject the idea of a negotiated peace.
 
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