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richaceg

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Sounds like you are excusing terrorism.
you have evidence it wasn't Hamas firing at evacuating Gazans? afterall they're the once who don't want civilians to leave...why would IDF fire at convoys they told to move out?
 

Frankfooter

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there is no evidence of terrorism...YET....right now it seems everyone is saying "Israel has the right to defend itself"....
You mean you will never accept evidence of terrorism by Israelis the same way you will never accept that rump lost the election, raped anyone, lied or cheated. Its all the same.
 

Frankfooter

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you have evidence it wasn't Hamas firing at evacuating Gazans? afterall they're the once who don't want civilians to leave...why would IDF fire at convoys they told to move out?
What would Hamas use to fire at a moving truck?
They don't have missiles that can do that.

But you probably don't think there is anything wrong with doing this to a refugee camp either.
 

richaceg

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Amnesty International

Alleged ties to Muslim Brotherhood and Islamists


In August 2015, The Times reported that Yasmin Hussein, then Amnesty's director of faith and human rights and previously its head of international advocacy and a prominent representative at the United Nations, had "undeclared private links to men alleged to be key players in a secretive network of global Islamists", including the Muslim Brotherhood and Hamas.[66][67] Ms. Hussein's husband, Wael Musabbeh and a Bradford community trust, of which both Mr Musabbeh and Ms Hussein were directors, were alleged by the United Arab Emirates to be part of a financial and ideological network linking the Muslim Brotherhood to its affiliate in the UAE, which the UAE government in 2013 accused of trying to overthrow the government.[67] Amnesty said it knew in 2013 of the alleged links between the Muslim Brotherhood, Mr Musabbeh, and the Bradford trust, but did not realize there was any connection to Ms Hussein, Musabbeh's wife of 20 years; it also challenged the fairness of the trial.
 

richaceg

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You had to go there?
As if the IDF is a better moral choice than Amnesty?
IDF don't disguise themselves as holier than thou....we all know where they stand....the existence of Israel.... did you see the tweets? all they say was the convoy was attacked....they seem to thread carefully and not say it was Israel or Hamas...leaves it to your imagination...and i know how you run wild with it...
 

Frankfooter

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IDF don't disguise themselves as holier than thou....we all know where they stand....the existence of Israel.... did you see the tweets? all they say was the convoy was attacked....they seem to thread carefully and not say it was Israel or Hamas...leaves it to your imagination...and i know how you run wild with it...
You know, rich. I expect you'd watch this video and blame the Palestinian.
 

richaceg

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You know, rich. I expect you'd watch this video and blame the Palestinian.
Sure skirmishes happen daily there Franky, this is no secret...does this happen one side? We can all say that's a murderer that shot a palestinian...he should be jailed or sentenced to death if that's their law... you don't think Israeli's don't get killed?


The story of the Jewish community in Gaza during the 1929 Arab riots was pushed out of the national memory. It does not appear in documents, except for noting the fact that “The Jewish community in Gaza ceased to exist after the 1929 Arab riots”. In the full report of the British Commission of Inquiry (the Shaw Commission) which investigated the 1929 Arab riots at the end of that year, they did not even mention the events in Gaza, and not one Jew from Gaza was invited to testify before the commission.

The Arab riots destroyed the Jewish community in Gaza. All attempts to renew the Jewish community in the city in the following years failed. Gaza became a city ‘clean’ of Jews.
 

Frankfooter

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Sure skirmishes happen daily there Franky, this is no secret...does this happen one side? We can all say that's a murderer that shot a palestinian...he should be jailed or sentenced to death if that's their law... you don't think Israeli's don't get killed?
It does happen daily, rich.
200 Palestinians were killed like that before Oct, 55 since.
You've seen the numbers, you know which side is killing more.
basketcase says these are civilians.

 

shack

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Yes. Terrorists are designated by governments based on the acts they commit. The Hamas is a designated terror group per Canada for example.
It's kind of funny how he says that Gov'ts don't designate terrorism. But if the U.N., which represents all the governments of the world, issues a statement about Israel that includes the word terror, he will cite that 100x as verified proof that Israel is a terrorist state.

He lies so much that he can't keep them straight and that's why he gets exposed and everybody calls him liar and terrorist supporter and are tired of his racist double standards. He's becoming not only a laughingstock and a caricature of himself, but a pariah.

Everybody is tired of his hate speech.
 
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mandrill

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Sometimes you have to wonder why...there are palestinians living in Israel among the Jews....but Gaza is "clean of Jews"...
The depletion of the Jewish community in Gaza was caused by economic concerns. In 1927 the Jewish community in Gaza numbered 50 men. They lived within the Arab environment and remained on a friendly relationship with their Arab neighbors. After two years, everything changed. In August 1929, during the Arab riots in Hevron, the Arabs in Gaza similarly tried to harm the Jews in Gaza, and massacre them as had been done to the Hevron Jews. The Jews gathered in a city hotel. With the help of the a-Shawa family which belonged to the aristocracy of Gaza Arabs, the British managed to protect them from the Arab mob besieging the hotel and get them out in the middle of the night by train to Lod, and from there to Tel Aviv.

The story of the Jewish community in Gaza during the 1929 Arab riots was pushed out of the national memory. It does not appear in documents, except for noting the fact that “The Jewish community in Gaza ceased to exist after the 1929 Arab riots”. In the full report of the British Commission of Inquiry (the Shaw Commission) which investigated the 1929 Arab riots at the end of that year, they did not even mention the events in Gaza, and not one Jew from Gaza was invited to testify before the commission.

The Arab riots destroyed the Jewish community in Gaza. All attempts to renew the Jewish community in the city in the following years failed. Gaza became a city ‘clean’ of Jews.
The British in the 1920's were pretty pro Arab and considered the Jews nuisances....
 

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mandrill

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You should go back further.

Prior to 1947 and the zionist movement the mandate of Palestine was a pretty multicultural place, as were most of the countries around them. Beirut was the Paris of the middle east, Iraq had a vibrant Jewish community as did a lot of other Arabic countries.

The zionist movement has been the problem. Not the Jewish people and not Palestinians, but zionism. Its a stupidly 19th century racist colonial movement that has not made Jews or anyone else safer or happier. Stupid ethno states.
Frankie, XMontrealer posted some wiki articles on anti Jewish pogroms in the Arab states in the 1940's. It's clear that the Arabs were violently anti Semitic.

And Beirut was the "Paris of the Middle East" and was then absolutely trashed by decades of sectarian violence. What does that tell you?!?!?!
 

Kautilya

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Oh come on!

NOT Jackson Hinkle!!!!!???!!!!! Have shred of internet self respect. Hinkle is a notorious, legendary mega Putin troll!!!!
Frank is now siding with all the pro-Putin trolls right now. And that video looks like a precision attack to me, with some damage to surrounding buildings. Notice how the video just focuses on one site of the bombing while in the other half, they pan over everywhere.
 

mandrill

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You done arguing and let's focus on solutions? I can do that...
Remove Hamas...
Except I suspect that HAMAS - or some equivalent Islamist organization - is / will be embedded in the Gaza Arabs at a cellular level....
 

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Amnesty International

Alleged ties to Muslim Brotherhood and Islamists


In August 2015, The Times reported that Yasmin Hussein, then Amnesty's director of faith and human rights and previously its head of international advocacy and a prominent representative at the United Nations, had "undeclared private links to men alleged to be key players in a secretive network of global Islamists", including the Muslim Brotherhood and Hamas.[66][67] Ms. Hussein's husband, Wael Musabbeh and a Bradford community trust, of which both Mr Musabbeh and Ms Hussein were directors, were alleged by the United Arab Emirates to be part of a financial and ideological network linking the Muslim Brotherhood to its affiliate in the UAE, which the UAE government in 2013 accused of trying to overthrow the government.[67] Amnesty said it knew in 2013 of the alleged links between the Muslim Brotherhood, Mr Musabbeh, and the Bradford trust, but did not realize there was any connection to Ms Hussein, Musabbeh's wife of 20 years; it also challenged the fairness of the trial.
Sounds like the kind of conspiracy theory the Proud Boys embrace.
 

richaceg

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richaceg

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Except I suspect that HAMAS - or some equivalent Islamist organization - is / will be embedded in the Gaza Arabs at a cellular level....
I wouldn't doubt that at all...There are going to be Palestinians who wouldn't want to live with Jews...depending on how they interpret the Quran....
 
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