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Obviously Frank besides not answering a simple question. To name just one occasion when a terrorist has warned civilians to leave. And can’t so pretends the question wasn’t asked.

Frank and Hamas supporters don’t remember 9/11 either. Nor the US response. Nor what other countries thought and did. Nor what the UN has to say about terrorism and terrosist.
Shortly after the attacks of September 11, 2001, the United Nations Security Council passed a Resolution declaring terrorism a threat to international peace and security and introducing binding obligations on States.to take a plethora of steps, including criminalising terrorism, securing borders, (insert word fences) cracking down on terrorist financing, cooperating on cross-border law enforcement, addressing misuse of the Internet, and preventing radicalisation in prison
Frank and sympathetic friends might also want to read this part.
In its 66 year history, Israel has not known a single day free from terrorism and the threat of terrorism isn’t theoretical but prevalent and persistent. Out of necessity, we have established a longstanding practice of experts in the field of counterterrorism, extending also the way of assisting to victims of terror.
n its 66 year history, Israel has not known a single day free from terrorism and the threat of terrorism isn’t theoretical but prevalent and persistent. Out of necessity, we have established a longstanding practice of experts in the field of counterterrorism, extending also the way of assisting to victims of terror.

When you poke bears, they will reach a point when they say we are done playing nice and maul you.

deal with it.
 
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There was never a legit offer for a two state solution. The closest was the 'napkin map' offer from Olmert, where Olmert refused to put the offer in writing. Rabin was killed by an Israeli Jew for his attempt at peace, the Oslo Accords, which Israel used to stall for time while moving 500,000 settlers into the land they said was going to Palestine. 'Facts on the ground' as Netanyahu called them.

Palestine has been under military occupation for 54 years. Only the military occupation can decide when the occupation ends, not the victims of the occupation unless they fight and retake their land.

This is why we must call for a ceasefire and the end of apartheid and occupation.
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Saying bullshit like this makes it impossible to take you seriously.
 
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Franky and friend are crying Gaza is an "open-air prison"... yeah...brought to you by Gaza's friendly neighborhood terrorists....
how many suicide bombings over the years has Hamas inflicted on civilians? I only started 2003 because I'm lazy...

2003
NameDateLocationDeadInjuredNotesRef
Tel-Aviv central bus station massacreJanuary 5, 2003Southern Tel Aviv23Carried out by two members of the Fatah Al-Aqsa Martyrs' Brigades, with the help of Palestinian Islamic Jihad.
Haifa bus 37 suicide bombingMarch 5, 2003Carmeliya neighborhood, Haifa17Carried out by Hamas member and attributed to Hamas, yet never acknowledged.
Kfar Saba train station bombingApril 24, 2003Kfar Saba113PFLP claimed responsibility jointly with Al-Aqsa Martyrs' Brigades.[14][16]
Mike's Place suicide bombingApril 30, 2003Mike's Place pub, Tel Aviv3Carried out by Hamas using a British Muslim citizen of Pakistani descent and together with al-Aqsa Martyrs' Brigades.
Jerusalem bus 6 bombingMay 18, 2003Jerusalem7Hamas claimed responsibility.
Afula mall bombingMay 19, 2003Afula shopping center3Hamas claimed responsibility.
Davidka Square bus bombingJune 11, 2003Downtown Jerusalem17Hamas claimed responsibility.
Shmuel HaNavi bus bombingAugust 19, 2003Shmuel Hanavi, Jerusalem23Hamas claimed responsibility.
Tzrifin bus stop attackSeptember 9, 2003Bus stop near Tzrifin army base9Hamas claimed responsibility.
Café Hillel bombingSeptember 9, 2003Hillel Cafe, Jerusalem7Hamas claimed responsibility.
Maxim restaurant suicide bombingOctober 4, 2003Haifa21Palestinian Islamic Jihad claimed responsibility.
Geha Interchange bus stop bombingDecember 25, 2003Geha Junction4Over 20 injured. PFLP claimed responsibility.[14][16]
2004
NameDateLocationDeadInjuredNotesRef
3rd Erez Crossing attackJanuary 14, 2004Gaza Strip4Al-Aqsa Martyrs' Brigade and Hamas claimed joint responsibility.
Gaza Street bus bombingJanuary 29, 2004Rehavia, Jerusalem11Al-Aqsa Martyrs' Brigade and Hamas claimed responsibility.
Liberty Bell Park bus bombingFebruary 22, 2004Liberty Bell Garden, Jerusalem8Al-Aqsa Martyrs' Brigade claimed responsibility.
Ashdod Port massacreMarch 14, 2004Port of Ashdod10Double suicide bombing. Carried out by Al-Aqsa Martyrs' Brigade together with Hamas.
Beka'ot checkpoint bombingMay 22, 2004Beka'ot checkpoint, Jordan Valley, West Banknone1PFLP claimed responsibility.[14][17]
Beersheba bus bombingsAugust 31, 2004Downtown Beersheba on buses 7 and 1216Hamas claimed responsibility.
Sinai bombingsOctober 7, 2004Sinai peninsula, Egypt34Suicide bombing at two Sinai holiday resorts frequented by Israeli tourists: thirty-one died at the Taba Hilton and three at Ras a-Satan. Among the dead were 12 Israelis; over 120 were wounded. The attack was masterminded by Iyad Saleh and carried out by a Palestinian group.
Carmel Market bombingNovember 1, 2004Tel Aviv330PFLP claimed responsibility.[14][18]
2005
NameDateLocationDeadInjuredNotesRef
Karni border crossing attackJanuary 13, 2005Karni crossing, Gaza Strip6Carried out together by Hamas with Fatah Al-Aqsa Martyrs' Brigades and Popular Resistance Committees.
Stage Club bombingFebruary 25, 2005Tel Aviv sea promenade5Carried out together with Al-Aqsa Martyrs' Brigades and with Hizballah involvement.
1st HaSharon Mall suicide bombingJuly 12, 2005Netanya5Palestinian Islamic Jihad claimed responsibility.
Hadera Market bombingOctober 26, 2005Hadera7Palestinian Islamic Jihad claimed responsibility.
2nd HaSharon Mall suicide bombingDecember 5, 2005Netanya5Palestinian Islamic Jihad claimed responsibility.
2006
NameDateLocationDeadInjuredNotesRef
1st Rosh Ha'ir restaurant bombingJanuary 19, 2006Near Tel Aviv old central bus stationnone32Palestinian Islamic Jihad claimed responsibility.
Kedumim bombingMarch 30, 2006Kdumim, West Bank4Al-Aqsa Martyrs' Brigades claimed responsibility.
2nd Rosh Ha'ir restaurant bombingApril 17, 2006Near Tel Aviv old central bus station1168Carried out by Palestinian Islamic Jihad together with Al-Aqsa Martyrs' Brigades.
2007
NameDateLocationDeadInjuredNotesRef
Eilat bakery bombingJanuary 29, 2007Eilat3Palestinian Islamic Jihad and Al-Aqsa Martyrs' Brigades claim joint responsibility.[19]
2008
NameDateLocationDeadInjuredNotesRef
Dimona bombingFebruary 4, 2008Dimona19The Damascus leadership of Hamas claimed responsibility, but it has been argued they knew nothing of it, and that the operation was undertaken at the initiative of Hamas leaders in Gaza.[20] [21]
Kerem Shalom suicide bombingApril 19, 2008Kerem Shalom border crossing, Gaza Stripnone13Three Palestinian suicide bombers broke through the border fence to attack the Kerem Shalom IDF post, blowing themselves up and wounding several Israeli soldiers. Hamas claimed responsibility.[22][23]
2010s
2015
NameDateLocationDeadInjuredNotesRef
Ma'ale Adumim attempted bombingOctober 11, 2015Jerusalem01Palestinian female bomber detonates a bomb in her car after being stopped by traffic cops, on the road from the Israeli settlement of Ma'ale Adumim to Jerusalem.[24]
2016
NameDateLocationDeadInjuredNotesRef
2016 Jerusalem bus bombingApril 18, 2016Jerusalem020A member of Hamas was involved, but Hamas, while praising the act, did not claim responsibility.
 

Phil C. McNasty

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Some Jewish chick said this:

If Hamas and Hezbollah put down their weapons tomorrow there would be peace.
If Israel put down their weapons tomorrow there would be no more Israel
 

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Obviously Frank besides not answering a simple question. To name just one occasion when a terrorist has warned civilians to leave. And can’t so pretends the question wasn’t asked.

Frank and Hamas supporters don’t remember 9/11 either. Nor the US response. Nor what other countries thought and did. Nor what the UN has to say about terrorism and terrosist.


Frank and sympathetic friends might also want to read this part.


n its 66 year history, Israel has not known a single day free from terrorism and the threat of terrorism isn’t theoretical but prevalent and persistent. Out of necessity, we have established a longstanding practice of experts in the field of counterterrorism, extending also the way of assisting to victims of terror.

When you poke bears, they will reach a point when they say we are done playing nice and maul you.

deal with it.
You know what would end the terrorism there, old guy?
Ending the 54 year old occupation and apartheid rule.

 
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Franky and friend are crying Gaza is an "open-air prison"... yeah...brought to you by Gaza's friendly neighborhood terrorists....
how many suicide bombings over the years has Hamas inflicted on civilians? I only started 2003 because I'm lazy...

2003
NameDateLocationDeadInjuredNotesRef
Tel-Aviv central bus station massacreJanuary 5, 2003Southern Tel Aviv23Carried out by two members of the Fatah Al-Aqsa Martyrs' Brigades, with the help of Palestinian Islamic Jihad.
Haifa bus 37 suicide bombingMarch 5, 2003Carmeliya neighborhood, Haifa17Carried out by Hamas member and attributed to Hamas, yet never acknowledged.
Kfar Saba train station bombingApril 24, 2003Kfar Saba113PFLP claimed responsibility jointly with Al-Aqsa Martyrs' Brigades.[14][16]
Mike's Place suicide bombingApril 30, 2003Mike's Place pub, Tel Aviv3Carried out by Hamas using a British Muslim citizen of Pakistani descent and together with al-Aqsa Martyrs' Brigades.
Jerusalem bus 6 bombingMay 18, 2003Jerusalem7Hamas claimed responsibility.
Afula mall bombingMay 19, 2003Afula shopping center3Hamas claimed responsibility.
Davidka Square bus bombingJune 11, 2003Downtown Jerusalem17Hamas claimed responsibility.
Shmuel HaNavi bus bombingAugust 19, 2003Shmuel Hanavi, Jerusalem23Hamas claimed responsibility.
Tzrifin bus stop attackSeptember 9, 2003Bus stop near Tzrifin army base9Hamas claimed responsibility.
Café Hillel bombingSeptember 9, 2003Hillel Cafe, Jerusalem7Hamas claimed responsibility.
Maxim restaurant suicide bombingOctober 4, 2003Haifa21Palestinian Islamic Jihad claimed responsibility.
Geha Interchange bus stop bombingDecember 25, 2003Geha Junction4Over 20 injured. PFLP claimed responsibility.[14][16]
2004
NameDateLocationDeadInjuredNotesRef
3rd Erez Crossing attackJanuary 14, 2004Gaza Strip4Al-Aqsa Martyrs' Brigade and Hamas claimed joint responsibility.
Gaza Street bus bombingJanuary 29, 2004Rehavia, Jerusalem11Al-Aqsa Martyrs' Brigade and Hamas claimed responsibility.
Liberty Bell Park bus bombingFebruary 22, 2004Liberty Bell Garden, Jerusalem8Al-Aqsa Martyrs' Brigade claimed responsibility.
Ashdod Port massacreMarch 14, 2004Port of Ashdod10Double suicide bombing. Carried out by Al-Aqsa Martyrs' Brigade together with Hamas.
Beka'ot checkpoint bombingMay 22, 2004Beka'ot checkpoint, Jordan Valley, West Banknone1PFLP claimed responsibility.[14][17]
Beersheba bus bombingsAugust 31, 2004Downtown Beersheba on buses 7 and 1216Hamas claimed responsibility.
Sinai bombingsOctober 7, 2004Sinai peninsula, Egypt34Suicide bombing at two Sinai holiday resorts frequented by Israeli tourists: thirty-one died at the Taba Hilton and three at Ras a-Satan. Among the dead were 12 Israelis; over 120 were wounded. The attack was masterminded by Iyad Saleh and carried out by a Palestinian group.
Carmel Market bombingNovember 1, 2004Tel Aviv330PFLP claimed responsibility.[14][18]
2005
NameDateLocationDeadInjuredNotesRef
Karni border crossing attackJanuary 13, 2005Karni crossing, Gaza Strip6Carried out together by Hamas with Fatah Al-Aqsa Martyrs' Brigades and Popular Resistance Committees.
Stage Club bombingFebruary 25, 2005Tel Aviv sea promenade5Carried out together with Al-Aqsa Martyrs' Brigades and with Hizballah involvement.
1st HaSharon Mall suicide bombingJuly 12, 2005Netanya5Palestinian Islamic Jihad claimed responsibility.
Hadera Market bombingOctober 26, 2005Hadera7Palestinian Islamic Jihad claimed responsibility.
2nd HaSharon Mall suicide bombingDecember 5, 2005Netanya5Palestinian Islamic Jihad claimed responsibility.
2006
NameDateLocationDeadInjuredNotesRef
1st Rosh Ha'ir restaurant bombingJanuary 19, 2006Near Tel Aviv old central bus stationnone32Palestinian Islamic Jihad claimed responsibility.
Kedumim bombingMarch 30, 2006Kdumim, West Bank4Al-Aqsa Martyrs' Brigades claimed responsibility.
2nd Rosh Ha'ir restaurant bombingApril 17, 2006Near Tel Aviv old central bus station1168Carried out by Palestinian Islamic Jihad together with Al-Aqsa Martyrs' Brigades.
2007
NameDateLocationDeadInjuredNotesRef
Eilat bakery bombingJanuary 29, 2007Eilat3Palestinian Islamic Jihad and Al-Aqsa Martyrs' Brigades claim joint responsibility.[19]
2008
NameDateLocationDeadInjuredNotesRef
Dimona bombingFebruary 4, 2008Dimona19The Damascus leadership of Hamas claimed responsibility, but it has been argued they knew nothing of it, and that the operation was undertaken at the initiative of Hamas leaders in Gaza.[20] [21]
Kerem Shalom suicide bombingApril 19, 2008Kerem Shalom border crossing, Gaza Stripnone13Three Palestinian suicide bombers broke through the border fence to attack the Kerem Shalom IDF post, blowing themselves up and wounding several Israeli soldiers. Hamas claimed responsibility.[22][23]
2010s
2015
NameDateLocationDeadInjuredNotesRef
Ma'ale Adumim attempted bombingOctober 11, 2015Jerusalem01Palestinian female bomber detonates a bomb in her car after being stopped by traffic cops, on the road from the Israeli settlement of Ma'ale Adumim to Jerusalem.[24]
2016
NameDateLocationDeadInjuredNotesRef
2016 Jerusalem bus bombingApril 18, 2016Jerusalem020A member of Hamas was involved, but Hamas, while praising the act, did not claim responsibility.
All those terrorist attacks should be condemned.
And Israeli reprisal attacks, which kill roughly 10x the number should also be condemned.

Its the occupying, apartheid and now genocidal, Israel that is killing way, way more people.

 
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It all starts here.

Arafat never once made a single offer or counteroffer. Rabin (RIP) paid for his peace agreement with his life, and Barak's career was toast when Arafat/Fatah refused to even take a proposal back to the West Bank. So stop with the bullshit about Israel and not making serious attempts at a two state solution. What the hell have the Palestinians ever offered Israelis dating back to the UN creation of the Jewish State?

The answer here is simple - anti-semites will play the apartheid card, but cannot shake the facts that one side teaches their kids regular subjects like Math, Science etc, the other side teaches their kids to hate Jews. Full stop if you haven't seen the textbooks Gazan kids are given.

It stuns me to no end to see Israel vilified for having the audacity to respond and defend herself after having 1400 massacred under 2 weeks ago. It os mind blowing shit and a continual reminder that Jew hating (disguised as anti-Zionism) is never that out of vogue for some people.
 

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All those terrorist attacks should be condemned.
And Israeli reprisal attacks, which kill roughly 10x the number should also be condemned.

Its the occupying, apartheid and now genocidal, Israel that is killing way, way more people.

The Gaza War, also known as Operation Cast Lead (Hebrew: מִבְצָע עוֹפֶרֶת יְצוּקָה),[39] also known in the Muslim world as the Gaza Massacre (Arabic: مجزرة غزة),[40][41][42] and referred to as the Battle of al-Furqan (معركة الفرقان) by Hamas,[43][44] was a three-week armed conflict between Gaza Strip Palestinian paramilitary groups and the Israel Defense Forces (IDF) that began on 27 December 2008 and ended on 18 January 2009 with a unilateral ceasefire. The conflict resulted in 1,166–1,417 Palestinian and 13 Israeli deaths (including 4 from friendly fire).[45]

The Israeli government's stated goal was to stop indiscriminate Palestinian rocket fire into Israel[46] and weapons smuggling into the Gaza strip.[47][48][49] Hamas stated its rocket fire, which resumed in November 2008, was in response to an Israeli raid of a tunnel leading from Gaza, which it characterized as a ceasefire violation.[50][51] Israel said the raid was a preemptive strike against a tunnel they believed would be used to abduct Israeli soldiers guarding the border.[50][52] In the initial air assault, Israeli forces attacked police stations, military targets including weapons caches and suspected rocket firing teams, as well as political and administrative institutions in the opening assault, striking in the densely populated cities of Gaza, Khan Yunis and Rafah.[53] After hostilities broke out, Palestinian groups fired rockets in retaliation for the aerial bombardments and attacks.[54] The international community considers indiscriminate attacks on civilians and civilian structures that do not discriminate between civilians and military targets as illegal under international law.[55][56][57]

An Israeli ground invasion began on 3 January. On 5 January, the IDF began operating in the densely populated urban centers of Gaza. During the last week of the offensive (from 12 January), Israel mostly hit targets it had damaged before and struck Palestinian rocket-launching units.[15] Hamas intensified its rocket and mortar attacks against mostly civilian targets in southern Israel, reaching the major cities of Beersheba and Ashdod for the first time during the conflict.[58][59][60] Israeli politicians ultimately decided against striking deeper within Gaza amid concerns of higher casualties on both sides and rising international criticism.[citation needed] The conflict ended on 18 January, when the IDF first declared a unilateral ceasefire, followed by Hamas' announcing a one-week ceasefire twelve hours later.[6][7] The IDF completed its withdrawal on 21 January.[61]

In September 2009, a UN special mission, headed by the South African Justice Richard Goldstone, produced a report accusing both Palestinian militants and the IDF of war crimes and possible crimes against humanity, and recommended bringing those responsible to justice.[62] In 2011, Goldstone wrote that he no longer believed that Israel intentionally targeted civilians in Gaza.[63] The other authors of the report, Hina Jilani, Christine Chinkin, and Desmond Travers, rejected Goldstone's re-assessment.[64][65] The United Nations Human Rights Council ordered Israel to conduct various repairs of the damages. On 21 September 2012, the United Nations Human Rights Council concluded that 75% of civilian homes destroyed in the attack were not rebuilt.[

Hamas never learn from history...
 
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