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Body of second Israeli hostage killed by Hamas found near Shifa Hospital in Gaza: IDF (msn.com)


The Israel Defense Forces said on Friday that it recovered the body of Cpl. Noa Marciano from the Gaza Strip, three days after confirming she was killed by Hamas in captivity.

IDF troops found the body in a building adjacent to Shifa Hospital in Gaza City and returned it to Israel for identification.

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Marciano, a resident of Modi’in in central Israel, was abducted from Kibbutz Nahal Oz, where she served as a lookout.
On Monday night, Hamas released a video of Marciano that the military described as “psychological terror.” The video claimed that she was killed in an airstrike in Gaza.

The next morning, the IDF cleared for publication that the 19-year-old had already died in captivity.

“After analyzing the footage, experts suggest that her injuries do not align with those typically sustained in airstrikes,” the IDF said in a statement. “The observed wounds appear more consistent with bullet injuries, and there is also an indication that she may have suffered from injuries related to a fall from a height.”


Hamas has denied the International Red Cross access to any of the estimated 240 captives being held in Gaza.

On Thursday night, the IDF announced that soldiers had located and recovered the body of Yehudit Weiss , 65, from a building near Shifa Hospital.

Hamas terrorists kidnapped both Marciano and Weiss during their Oct. 7 massacre of 1,200 people in southwestern Israel.

In recent weeks, Israel has provided extensive evidence that Hamas uses hospitals , mosques , schools and other civilian sites for their terror warfare against Israel, and that the terror group has a command center in the tunnel system underneath Shifa .


Earlier on Thursday, Dr. Muhammad Abu-Salamiyyah, director of Shifa , told Al Jazeera that “the IDF forces collected bodies from the hospital.”

Asked about the claim at the press conference, IDF Spokesperson Rear Adm. Daniel Hagari said: “We are working in Shifa Hospital for 48 hours. It’s a complex operation. It’s a large complex.

“In the operation, we found underground [infrastructure], weapons and we found information relating to the hostages. Next to the hospital, we found Yehudit Weiss,” he said.

“We will continue to update when we have confirmed information on all the additional achievements of the operation, and we hope for additional achievements,” added Hagari. “Until then, we must wait and be patient.”
 

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BREAKING: Tel Aviv was just attacked in a Missile Strike right before Shabbat. This is a significant missile attack from the southern region of Gaza. The Israeli Air Force is currently responding. This week
@JoeBiden
gave Iran another $10 BILLION. We know Iran has been training HAMAS and Hezbollah terrorists and supplying them with weapons for the sake of eradicating
@Israel
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Well, so I guess per your own definition, that should be the Israelis then. One would think massacring 11,000+ people and 5000+ children and subjecting them to racism and apartheid, would be considered more barbaric than killing 1200 civilians. Since that is not the case, you are clearly not motivated by what you consider "barbaric".



The Israelis probably killed them accidentally during their carpet bombings.
Yeah sorry not buying Hamas numbers. Sell it to someone else
 

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Yup, those numbers are not believable because a couple of war criminals in an ultra-right wing nut job Netanyahu and a useless Biden, said so, when in every conflict prior, those numbers provided by the Gaza Ministry of Health have aligned with both Israeli and UN estimations, with a deviation of ~2.5 to 4%. Not to mention they released names and ID numbers of the deceased. And of course they are not believable because that many people couldn't possibly die, in an indiscriminate carpet bombing operation that has gone on for 6 weeks now.

But no worries, I understand your cognitive dissonance in wanting to convince yourself that it is the Palestinian civilians that are the barbarians (they have to be because they are Muslims, right?!), when evidence proves it to be otherwise.
Or maybe hamas hasn’t allowed the civilians to exit the war zone after IDF sent warnings after warnings. Because hamas loves when people like you worry about their dead civilians.

Also - You are desperately trying to hang onto Muslim issue and I said multiple times I don’t give a fuck about their religion or anyone else’s really.
Just ask your oppressed children to stop firing rockets at israel and return hostages.
 

mandrill

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There was no "war" to begin with. Its not like they are 2 equal sides. This is an onslaught on a civilian population by a modern military force. That is a war crime per international law.

Also, you make it sound like this is a race war. A race war between an inferior, poor, barbaric people (a small minority of whom killed 1200 civilians) vs superior people (who slaughtered 11,000+ civilians, and 5000+ children) because members of their community won Nobel prizes. That as you can imagine is racist, and is actually the reason for most of your and others support. As I mentioned many times earlier, for you and others, "Hatred of Muslims > love for the jews".
Of course there's a war. HAMAS is a sovereign power in Gaza and attacked Israel. Israel is defending itself.

There's no racial element to this. Russia attacks Ukraine and I support Ukraine because Russia is the aggressor. That doesn't make me "anti white". HAMAS attacks Israel, I support Israel.

Get over this need to portray this conflict as "anti colonial" or "anti racist". It's none of those. If Israel had initiated the conflict, I would have supported HAMAS. And don't give me the line about Israel being the aggressor 50 years ago. That's over. That's in the past.
 

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Despite Israeli claims that they are wiping out Hamas they don’t appear to be succeeding. This was posted by Hamas yesterday.

That's right. Because the HAMAS murdering rapists have run away through the tunnels to South Gaza where the IDF can't get them - yet.

They'll wait until the IDF withdraws and then they'll return. They'll steal $billions more international aid and spend it on rebuilding the tunnels and on rockets and they'll attack Israel and kill and rape their wretched victims again and then the IDF will have to do the job all over again and the cycle will repeat.
 

Leimonis

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Of course there's a war. HAMAS is a sovereign power in Gaza and attacked Israel. Israel is defending itself.

There's no racial element to this. Russia attacks Ukraine and I support Ukraine because Russia is the aggressor. That doesn't make me "anti white". HAMAS attacks Israel, I support Israel.

Get over this need to portray this conflict as "anti colonial" or "anti racist". It's none of those. If Israel had initiated the conflict, I would have supported HAMAS. And don't give me the line about Israel being the aggressor 50 years ago. That's over. That's in the past.
He seems to be projecting the race and religion 🤷‍♀️
Meanwhile this is how other Arab countries treat Palestinians
 

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No, it is not in the past. It is not over. Who says it is over? You? The Palestinians don't. The Israelis don't. It is an ongoing conflict for 75 years.

And yes, Israel occupying and stealing land from the Palestinians and infact the formation of Israel itself, was a colonial endeavour. Infact, Theodre Herzl, the father of modern day political Zionism, calls it a colonial endeavour.
Yes! When Jesus Christ was crucified the sign on the cross said “Jesus from Nazareth, king of Palestinians” because it was Palestinian land!
No wait it said “king of Jews”
 
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Of course there is a racial element to this. The comments here on this thread, prove, that there s a racial element to this. Infact, the only element at play here is racial in nature.
 

mandrill

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If Hamas does not allow civilians to exit the war zone, and I am not sure how they would do that, but if they did, then that is a war crime. Similarly, Israel still bombing the area despite civilians being trapped in it, is also a war crime. Per international law.
Nope. Because Israel is taking all due precautions. So it's not a war crime.

So which is it? Is Hamas a sovereign power or a terror group?

Hamas is a terror group that does not have any military strength that is even comparable to Israel. So this is really an Israeli assault on the Palestinians, which is a war crime. Not a war with Hamas.
They're both. And the fact that they're weaker than Israel just means they're dumb as fuck to have started it.

Of course there is a racial element to this. The comments here on this thread, prove, that there s a racial element to this. Infact, the only element at play here is racial in nature.
Ok, bud. Quote those examples and explain yourself. I'll wait.

Most of the guys you're fighting against in this thread are pretty solid centre lefties who hate the Tories and the GOP. Doesn't sound like they're "racist" to me.

No, it is not in the past. It is not over. Who says it is over? You? The Palestinians don't. The Israelis don't. It is an ongoing conflict for 75 years.

And yes, Israel occupying and stealing land from the Palestinians and infact the formation of Israel itself, was a colonial endeavour. Infact, Theodre Herzl, the father of modern day political Zionism, calls it a colonial endeavour.
It's over. It happened 50 to 75 years ago. It's done.

And "occupying and stealing" is a gross over simplification. The Jews were invited in by your buddies the British. The British were running Palestine at the time. The British made a number of plans to divide Palestine between the 2 groups. The Arabs rejected all of those and attacked Israel in 1948. Israel won.

So Israel ended up with the entire territory. Jews were nakba-ed out of the other Middle Eastern countries and had to flee to Israel. And the Arab countries attacked Israel in 67. Israel won again and had to maintain buffer zones to protect itself. The Palestinians have rejected other suggested peace settlements.

So it's over. It ended up where it ended up and NONE of that's to do with "racism" and "colonialism". It's like saying Germany is entitled to terror bomb Poles in Warsaw to get Silesia back.

You and your pals need to accept certain fundamentals. First and foremost, you MISSED all the really good anti colonialism and anti racism struggles. That happened in the 1960's. You weren't around then. Other people who were braver and smarter than you got that done. Seizing on a Middle Eastern terror group that kills other Middle Easterners is not "anti colonialism". It's about belonging to a narcissistic, silly cult of role playing where you pretend that you actually have something worthwhile to say about an issue that you refuse to understand.
 

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Must watch documentary on how the British colonial endeavour and WW 1 political manipulation led to the creation of the Israel-Palestinian conflict.

That took place more than a century ago. By that type of analysis, we should be giving Toronto back to the Huron. It's over.
 

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Yup, those numbers are not believable because a couple of war criminals in an ultra-right wing nut job Netanyahu and a useless Biden, said so, when in every conflict prior, those numbers provided by the Gaza Ministry of Health have aligned with both Israeli and UN estimations, with a deviation of ~2.5 to 4%. Not to mention they released names and ID numbers of the deceased. And of course they are not believable because that many people couldn't possibly die, in an indiscriminate carpet bombing operation that has gone on for 6 weeks now.

But no worries, I understand your cognitive dissonance in wanting to convince yourself that it is the Palestinian civilians that are the barbarians (they have to be because they are Muslims, right?!), when evidence proves it to be otherwise.
Still neutral and objective. LOL

BTW, I still have heard what you think about this report. Are you ducking? Can't put an anti-Israeli spin on it?

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Hamas has denied the International Red Cross access to any of the estimated 240 captives being held in Gaza.
 

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Savage barbarians

Israeli police say extreme sexual violence, rape by Hamas terrorists was systematic

The Civil Commission on October 7th Crimes by Hamas Against Women is working to compile a database of gender-based atrocities


JERUSALEM — The first suggestion that Hamas terrorists committed acts of extreme sexual violence and rape against victims during their Oct. 7 rampage through southern Israel came on social media early on that fateful Saturday morning six weeks ago.

Two short videos, shared by the terrorists themselves, quickly emerged showing groups of cheering Palestinian men, some armed, in the streets of Gaza crowding around half-naked and bloodied young Israeli women.

In one clip, a woman later identified as German-Israeli citizen Shani Louk, 22, can be seen barely clothed lying unconscious in an unnatural position on the flatbed of a pickup as men spit and abuse her body while screaming "Allahu Akhbar."

In another video, 19-year-old Israeli soldier Na’ama Levy is pulled from the back of a jeep by an armed gunman, her hands bound behind her back and thick blood stains between her legs, as Palestinian men jeer at her.

Louk is now counted among the 1,200 people murdered that day, and Levy is thought to be one of an estimated 240 hostages, including babies and children, being held by the terror group inside the Palestinian enclave.

While the victims of gender-based crimes committed during that brutal attack have yet to come forward, either because they were murdered or kidnapped or are still reeling from the trauma, the Israeli police and Israel’s newly formed Civil Commission on October 7th Crimes by Hamas Against Women believe sexual violence during the terror attack was widespread, systematic and even endorsed by the Islamic fundamentalist group’s religious and spiritual leaders as permissible during war.

Yet collecting the evidence for this intimate aspect of such a massive, multilevel terror attack, which sparked total chaos inside Israel and launched a full-scale war in the Gaza Strip, has proved challenging for criminal investigators. Those investigators hope to bring detailed charges against hundreds of Hamas terrorists now being held by Israel for their role in the assault and for women’s groups, who say that violent sexual crimes in war must be documented and remembered.

"This is the biggest criminal case in Israel’s history," said David Katz, head of the Israeli police’s Lahav 443 criminal investigation’s cyber unit, which is investigating the criminal aspects of the mass atrocity.

 
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