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Israel at war

Frankfooter

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Huh!

You know the Republicans and the CPC are way more supportive of Israel that the Dems and Libs are, huh?
Yes, 80% of dems want a ceasefire. Biden is pissing of his entire government.

U.S. diplomats slam Israel policy in leaked memo
The document offers a window into internal fury at the State Department over President Joe Biden’s Middle East policies.


 

Frankfooter

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I'm guessing that @Marxist777 is a fair and balanced, non sensationalized Twitter account there.
I'm guess end state capitalism is a new term for you.
It is also telling that you were offended by using Marx in a reference but not offended by using a sniper on a disabled civilian protester.
Why was that more offensive to you?
 

shack

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And the shit for brains continue to defend hamass

Dozens of Hamas rockets found inside youth center, mosque

Over 50 rockets found inside youth center in Gaza together with launchers, rocket launching sites found inside mosque.

During combat operations in the Gaza Strip, IDF forces located and uncovered additional evidence of Hamas' use of civilian sites for terrorist purposes and especially for launching rockets at the State of Israel.

During activity by a team of soldiers of the 460th Brigade to locate terrorist infrastructure and clear the area, rocket launch pits found by the soldiers in a mosque were destroyed.

In addition, during several activities in the past day, the soldiers found over 50 rockets ready to be launched into Israel from inside a youth movement compound in Northern Gaza.

Earlier, it was announced that overnight, an IAF fighter jet, directed by ISA and IDF intelligence, killed the Commander of Hamas’ Deir al-Balah Battalion in the Central Camps Brigade, Wael Asefa. Asefa, together with other commanders of the Central Camps Brigade, was responsible for sending Hamas “Nukhba” terrorists into Israeli territory during the barbaric massacre on October 7th. Following the massacre, he planned additional terrorist attacks.

Wael Asefa was imprisoned between 1992-1998 for his involvement in terrorist attacks against Israeli communities and has been involved in the incitement and promotion of terrorist attacks against Israeli civilians and IDF soldiers for decades.

As time goes on and Israel takes more control of Gaza, there will be dozens and dozens of more cases/locations where there will be clear evidence of Hamas using Gazans as shields.

I can guarantee that the people here who currently ask for proof of Hamas using human will attempt to refute every single one and the constant reason being that they are phony and Israel made them up.

No matter how much clear evidence they are given, they will never admit that Hamas is using human shields because that strengthens the arguments that most of these deaths by IDF were unavoidable and that Hamas is largely complicit and that they don't give a damn about the Gazans..
 
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Frankfooter

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Yeah why wouldn’t we believe hamas information?
Euro Med is 'Hamas' to you?
Oh, right, you think everyone one is Hamas, or a terrorist or someone who needs killing.

How does a person who generally appears sane and aware of politics justify to themselves that depriving 2.3 million people, 50% of whom are children born before Hamas came to power and 75% are refugees, how do you justify depriving them of food and water? Of actively participating in their genocide?

I used to wonder how that Nazis came to power and why nobody stopped them.
I'm understanding now.

 

richaceg

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Clearly that justifies killing 10,000 people, destroying their homes, starving them, depriving them of water and ruling them through apartheid.

#GazaHolocaust
is trending again
Hamas justifies it....they put every citizen at risk when they planned to build tunnels under civilian buildings and plot an attack on Israel...they set everything in motion with no regard for civilian lives...if you justify the attack on Oct 7....you suppor terrorists...plain and simple...
 
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As time goes on and Israel takes more control of Gaza, there will be dozens and dozens of more cases/locations where there will be clear evidence of Hamas using Gazans as shields.

I can guarantee that the people here who currently ask for proof of Hamas using human will attempt to refute every single one and the constant reason being that they are phony and Israel made them up.

No matter how much clear evidence they are given, they will never admit that Hamas is using human shields because that strengthens the arguments that most of these deaths by IDF were unavoidable and that Hamas is largely complicit and that they don't give a damn about the Gazans..
I'm sure that the IDF will release more and more photos they claim are evidence and their loyal minions will unquestionably accept what the IDF says, despite the overwhelming evidence of the war crimes they have committed.

Like when the IDF released this video exposing the fuel supply tunnel for a hospital and claimed it was Hamas.
 

Frankfooter

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Hamas justifies it....they put every citizen at risk when they planned to build tunnels under civilian buildings and plot an attack on Israel...they set everything in motion with no regard for civilian lives...if you justify the attack on Oct 7....you suppor terrorists...plain and simple...
Don't forget to call them 'cockroaches' and 'human animals'.
Especially the little ones, you have to kill them first.


 

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I'm sure that the IDF will release more and more photos they claim are evidence and their loyal minions will unquestionably accept what the IDF says, despite the overwhelming evidence of the war crimes they have committed.

Like when the IDF released this video exposing the fuel supply tunnel for a hospital and claimed it was Hamas.
Frank, question for you, if Hamas were to release all the hostages and agree to stop firing missiles into Israel for the sake of its civilians, do you not believe Israel would agree to a cease-fire?
 
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richaceg

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Many of these rockets atleast per pictures I saw seem to have silos underground. So what is the point of razing buildings and killing innocent civilians and children? Has Israel not dealt with rockets before using Iron Dome? It is still a war crime.
Iron Dome only stops rockets coming in...it won't destroy the source...you want to end the war? you want ceasefire? you get to the source... it's easy to cry ceasefire to Israel, but Hamas hasn't stopped firing rockets...the difference here is that Israel protects their civilians and evacuate them....Hamas encourage civilians to not leave the war zone...
you're not aware of "suicide culture" existing?
 
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richaceg

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I'm sure that the IDF will release more and more photos they claim are evidence and their loyal minions will unquestionably accept what the IDF says, despite the overwhelming evidence of the war crimes they have committed.

Like when the IDF released this video exposing the fuel supply tunnel for a hospital and claimed it was Hamas.
You keep posting tweets from random sources as long as it's anti-Israel, it's good...that's the difference between you and me franky...right from the start I always stated. Palestinians are getting the short end of all this....because of Hamas...how many times have you seen articles, videos and interviews with Hamas leaders they will fight Israel....regardless of how many palestinians die in their cause....
 
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Euro Med is 'Hamas' to you?
  • EuroMed Rights disproportionately focuses on Israel and holds it responsible for the continuation of the conflict. Reflecting this one-sided bias, EuroMed Rights members in “Israel/OPT”are all highly politicized NGOs active in the Arab-Israeli conflict:
    • Adalah
      • Adalah rejects the legitimacy of the Jewish state, attempting to portray it as inherently racist and discriminatory; regularly lobbies the Israeli Supreme Court and international bodies to adopt its agenda.
    • Al-Mezan
      • Highly active in anti-Israel lawfare campaigns, exploiting courts and international legal bodies to seek arrest warrants against Israeli government officials, filing lawsuits against companies and governments doing business with Israel, and lobbying for cases against Israelis at the International Criminal Court (ICC).
      • A number of Al-Mezan officials and employees are members of the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine (PFLP) and Hamas, terrorist organizations designated as such by the US, EU, Canada, and Israel.
 
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Frankfooter

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Frank, question for you, if Hamas were to release all the hostages and agree to stop firing missiles into Israel for the sake of its civilians, do you not believe Israel would agree to a cease-fire?
No, Netanyahu would not agree to a ceasefire.

Netanyahu allowed this attack to happen to distract the public from the mass protests against his government and the ongoing corruption investigations. He can't stop this attack now as he'd have to admit he failed to kill all of Hamas. His government would fail, the corruption trials continue and he'll be open to war crimes charges. Netanyahu will go as far as Biden will allow him at this point.



 

shack

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And what were the fundamentally unjust actions of Palestinians that they deserved Partition by a foreign colonization movement?
You didn't address my point, that the claim that non-Muslims hate Jews because of their "oppression" of Palestinians is false, because Jews have been hated by non-Muslims throughout history. Do you deny that?
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Frankfooter

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NGO monitor is an Israeli propaganda outfit.

NGO Monitor (Non-governmental Organization Monitor) is a right-wing non-governmental organizationbased in Jerusalem that reports on international NGO activity from a pro-Israel perspective.[4][5][6][7]

The organization was founded in 2001 by Gerald M. Steinberg under the auspices of the Jerusalem Center for Public Affairs, before becoming a legally and financially independent organization in 2007.[citation needed]

NGO Monitor has been criticized by academic figures, diplomats, and journalists for allowing its research and conclusions to be driven by politics,[8][9][10] for not examining right-wing NGOs,[10] and for putting out misleading information.[11] NGO Monitor's stated mission is to "end the practice used by certain self-declared 'humanitarian NGOs' of exploiting the label 'universal human rights values' to promote politically and ideologically motivated agendas".[1] A number of academics have written that NGO Monitor's aims and activities are political in nature.[10][12][9]

 
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