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mandrill

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Mandrill, its an occupation. Palestine, including Gaza, are occupied territories. Israel does not have the right to self defence against the people its occupying according to international law.

Its the occupation that is the source of all the violence, not the indigenous people resorting to violence and terrorism. If you call Hamas 'terrorists' for targeting civilians then you need to explain why you don't call Israelis 'terrorists' for doing the same thing but on 10x the scale.

Israel is killing Palestinians all through the West Bank and enabling settler terrorist attacks there at the same time, this is a war on Palestinians, not Hamas. You don't withhold all food and water to 2.3 million civilians on a war on 'terrorism'.
C'mon. That's just stupid.

HAMAS tortures, rapes, murders, mutilates and kidnaps Israeli women, childen and old people and Israel isn't allowed to fight back?!?!?!?!?!?!

Take a reality check!
 

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Urban warfare always leads to collateral damages in property destruction and civilian lives. The US army destroyed Manila almost totally in 1945, driving out the Japanese army. It also destroyed Aachen almost totally in 1944, driving out the German army. This is the reality of war.

Buildings have to be destroyed if your opponent is entrenched in the building.

If HAMAS didn't want this to happen, it shouldn't have attacked on 10/7.
1) Just because war crimes have happened before doesn't mean they are ok now. If you think 'terrorism' is a war crime you need to call it out when both sides do it. Otherwise you just sound like yet another racist right winger using the word to justify war.

2) Oct 7 was not the beginning. Its just another round of violence like 2008, 2011, 2014, 2018 and 2021. None have stopped the occupied indigenous people from violent resistance to the occupation. You need to address root causes.

Genocide will not bring peace.

 
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richaceg

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You're still a terrorist supporter, now you're just trying to justify settler terrorism by blaming the victims.
How did you become a terrorist supporter who calls for genocide?
Keep crying...Israel don't condone their criminals...the palestinians voted terrorists in...
 

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You defend terrorist...so who between the 2 of us support terrorists?
You.

I call for anyone accused of war crimes, including what you call 'terrorism' to be investigated and charged by the ICC. For international law to be respected. Which means I'm calling out terrorism on both sides.

You won't.
So you are the terrorist supporter who has now also called out for genocide.

 

richaceg

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You.

I call for anyone accused of war crimes, including what you call 'terrorism' to be investigated and charged by the ICC. For international law to be respected. Which means I'm calling out terrorism on both sides.

You won't.
So you are the terrorist supporter who has now also called out for genocide.

When did you call out Hamas? You justify their terrorisms....because "occupation"...and they still keep firing rockets...
Israel meanwhile evacuates civilians out of the war zone...you mental gymnastics don't work with me franky...
 

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Sure they do.
You're here condoning Israeli war crimes and genocide.
Israel wanted peace... offers a 3 day pause for release of hostages...Hamas wants none of it.... that's where you are right now...."no release of hostages"....that's what you support...
 

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When did you call out Hamas? You justify their terrorisms....because "occupation"...and they still keep firing rockets...
Israel meanwhile evacuates civilians out of the war zone...you mental gymnastics don't work with me franky...
I called out Hamas and Israel in post# 6833 on this thread.

You have refused to call out Israeli terrorism and are calling for genocide.
You're doing great.

Israel is shelling a pediatric hospital.
Congrats on killing more terrorists.



 

richaceg

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I called out Hamas and Israel in post# 6833 on this thread.

You have refused to call out Israeli terrorism and are calling for genocide.
You're doing great.

Israel is shelling a pediatric hospital.
Congrats on killing more terrorists.



You don't call out Hamas together with Israel...one is a terrorist group...one is a nation recognized by league of nations...one is recognized by UN as a terrorist group...
nice try...Israel isn't committing genocide....
Of course I'm doing great...I'm owning you...
there it is again..."shelling"...Israel identified another Hamas outpost under a hospital...
Did you celebrate the massacre of October 7? I don't celebrate the attacks of Israel...but they need to destroy Hamas...
 

richaceg

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Hamas is a terrorist group that has taken hostages in order to make demands. Do you think, 'pausing for a few days', is going to get them to release hostages? I mean if they were to release hostages that easy, then why would they take them in the first place? Also, how do you explain the 60 hostage deaths due to Israeli's airstrikes and Israel's goal of 'releasing hostages'? So clearly, neither does Hamas intend to release hostages, nor does Israel intend to prioritize freeing hostages. This is more about collective punishment, ethnic cleansing and Bibi's strategy to save his political career. I mean when you have a brewing political crisis, distract the population with something else strategy.
But of course Hamas expected all of this to happen....I wouldn't put it past Hamas to deliberately put hostages in the line of fire the same way they put palestinian citizens....all for people like you and franky to demonize Israel....
 
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Frankfooter

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You don't call out Hamas together with Israel...one is a terrorist group...one is a nation recognized by league of nations...one is recognized by UN as a terrorist group...
Terrorism is targeting civilians.
Either you're against terrorism or you support it.

And you refuse to call out settler terrorism.
Which makes you a terrorist supporter.

Join me in calling for all those accused of terrorism or targeting civilians to be investigated for all allegations.
Stop being a terrorist supporter.
 
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richaceg

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If they put Palestinians in the line of fire, guess what Israel should do?

Not fire.

If they do, then it is a war crime.

This isn't Hollywood logic.

And Israel doesn't fire when they see palestinians...they usher them safely out of the war zone...they also agreed to a daily 4 hour pauses....what has Hamas done so far other than firing rockets?
 

richaceg

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Terrorism is targeting civilians.
Either you're against terrorism or you support it.

And you refuse to call out settler terrorism.
Which makes you a terrorist supporter.

Join me in calling for all those accused of terrorism or targeting civilians to be investigated for all allegations.
Stop being a terrorist supporter.
I've been calling for Hamas to stop firing rockets...for the sake of the palestinians...a lot of people do...it's falling on deaf ears...you justify Oct 7...you definitely support terrorism...you can twist words, post tweets....at the end of the day...you support Hamas...you celebrate their attacks...then YOU are the terrorist supporters...not a single post I said call for genocide or killing civilians...Why hasn't Hamas released hostages yet? hostages are civilians yes? Why do they keep firing rockets if people are callilng for ceasefire?
 
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