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shack

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won't be surprise if she'll be dead tomorrow...Hamas don't value palestinian lives....
Hopefully more and more Gazans come to the same realization she did and turn on their tormentors. Hamas.

Liberte, Egalite, Fraternite

The French rose up.
 
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shack

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Because they are poor, disempowered people trying to survive. Such people never rise up.
Was the French Revolution carried out by the well-off and influential?

There were many reasons. The bourgeoisie—merchants, manufacturers, professionals—had gained financial power but were excluded from political power. Those who were socially beneath them had very few rights, and most were also increasingly impoverished. The monarchy was no longer viewed as divinely ordained. When the king sought to increase the tax burden on the poor and expand it to classes that had previously been exempt, revolution became all but inevitable.


Britannica,
 

toguy5252

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Just like the settlers who took the Palestinian guy's house were given military protection.
mince again trying to creat an equivancy between a settler criminal and the official policy of a government. If you are trying to sink to the level of gryphon and Frankie you are succeeding. Congratulations
 
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toguy5252

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Who is supporting Hamas and terrorism?

I always say Hamas needs to be taken out. And I even supported the military action for 2.5 weeks. But not now, seeing how they are ineffective and are just clearly indiscriminately bombing the place and killing civilians. 10,000+ people dead in 4 weeks!

So you need to call out Israel too. And not downplay their war crimes or racism is my point.
your truly lame attempts to appear even handed are really quite silly and transparentBut nice try.
 

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Yes. That is not an excuse. That is reality. Disempowered and powerless people will not rise up.
France and Russia disprove that claim.

Peasants, workers, and soldiers finally rose:

All were disempowered.

And Hamas soldiers are not powerless, same as Russian soldiers. Soldiers that recognized the evils of their government.
 

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I just ignore Butt-ler1000. He is TERB's self styled realist who just advocates for carpet bombings and war crimes because it is just so realistic bro!
And so far my thoughts continue to be correct. The IDF has moved in and there will be a New DMZ once the rats are cleaned out. Right now the wild card is the West Bank. I can say I don't know how that will go at this point.
 

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Sounds like Israel is self selecting to be made an example of.
What a choice.

Allowing yourself to be made an example of or allowing Hamas to kill as many of your civilians as they can.

Anybody with any intelligence knows what they would choose.

In this case, I need to ask you which you'd choose.
 

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I was just telling my neighbour this. They have cheapened antisemitism and the holocaust with their stunts. Like the guy wearing the yellow star of David on his chest at the UN. lol.
Maybe because the UN never mentioned Oct. 7 in their declaration. The same way the slaughter of Jews by Hitler was opposed by no one.

It's a reminder that history can repeat itself.

BTW, what's so funny?
 

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Who is supporting Hamas and terrorism?

I always say Hamas needs to be taken out. And I even supported the military action for 2.5 weeks. But not now, seeing how they are ineffective and are just clearly indiscriminately bombing the place and killing civilians. 10,000+ people dead in 4 weeks!

So you need to call out Israel too. And not downplay their war crimes or racism is my point.
WTF did you think the military operation was going to be like?

A Sylvester Stallone war movie. This is how it always is!
 
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Math lesson. Any multiple times zero is still zero.

All you do is dance around the topic. Saying I condemn both sides is not a condemnation of Oct. 7.
When I ask what specific acts you condemn, you turtle.

What acts did Hamas commit to go to the Hague for? Oct. 7?
I've answered multiple times but you seem to think I'm missing something.
So go ahead and list them.
Did they bomb a hospital? Oh wait, you say that's fine.
Did they kill babies? Oh wait, that's ok when Israel does it so it must be fine?
Did they not pay for parking? Oh wait, they don't have any military vehicles.

What war crimes do you think they've done that I haven't denounced loudly enough for you 5 times today?


I never said that, and I never would.

Please provide the quote where I said that "I support genocide."
I have posted multiple reports and evidence of genocide. Including the stats on close to 4000 children being killed by Israel.
Its genocide.
You refuse to denounce genocide, targeting civilians or even killing children.
Your support is in your refusal to criticize.

That is how you support genocide.

I'll post a video and you'll refuse to say that it was wrong to kill this child.
You'll probably then do a little dance of joy and then post something about oct 7 again.

 

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mince again trying to creat an equivancy between a settler criminal and the official policy of a government. If you are trying to sink to the level of gryphon and Frankie you are succeeding. Congratulations
Settler attacks are government policy.
The attack with the backing of the IDF and the only arrests as a result are Palestinians who resist.

Read the Israeli reports on it, or pretend its not happening and yell Hamas over and over again.
 
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WTF did you think the military operation was going to be like?

A Sylvester Stallone war movie. This is how it always is!
To achieve what? win hearts and minds? Would be interesting to see statistics of how many of the guilty had died compared to how many innocents. Tactics seem pretty indiscriminate. But there again. I'm no military expert.
 
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toguy5252

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I am not trying to create equivalency. I am saying there IS equivalency in that they are terrorist attacks. What is a terrorist attack? It is attacking unsuspecting civilians for political, religious, ethnic or any other reason. I said this much earlier in this thread too, that the settler attacks amount to terrorism and that they deserve a bullet to the head, the same as Hamas.



"The Hamas are terrorists. We are not like those guys! How can you compare us!" - That is racist. You are being racist.

Watch this interview of a settler fully, its only a couple of minutes. You are being this guy right now.

You know who these guys remind me of? Hindu Nationalist extremists in India. Yeah, they are domestic terrorists, same as these guys, who attack and kill Muslims, the same as these guys do.

There is no equivalency. None. Your attempt to create one is just an attempt to justify barbarity.
 

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All of us knows that what Hamas did was wrong, in the killing of over a 1000 Israelis and foreigners who were celebrating in a festival. That was targeted and brutal including taking hostages.
However now the 9000 Palestinian Families including mainly women, children and elderly have lost their lives in what is practically being designated a genocide. Any other Israeli PM other than Netanyahu would never have proceeded in the manner that this present Government did. I watched some of the real time bombings on some networks and it was horrific. Not a surprise when this is the result:

Top UN official in New York steps down citing ‘genocide’ of Palestinian civilians
Craig Mokhiber, director of human rights body, accuses the US, UK and much of Europe as ‘wholly complicit in the horrific assault’


Also what most of the media are not revealing is that Many Jews around the world are condemning the type of retaliation by Israel:

Jewish activists arrested at US Congress anti-Israel protest amid Gaza war
Demonstrators from anti-war group Jewish Voice for Peace rallied against ‘Israel’s ongoing oppression of Palestinians’.


 
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toguy5252

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How? I have already acknowledged it as a terror attack and said that Hamas needs to be taken out.

Your attempt to deny equivalency, when there is, is just an attempt to justify barbarity and racism.
lol. Nice try.
 
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