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Frankfooter

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That's the difference...not a single hamas supporter will condemn their actions...but you solemnly post tweets that in Israel some don't agree with the idf position and some jews rally for ceasefure....but yet to see palestinian supporters call for hamas condemnation....... democracy vs terrorism at its finest....
There are no Hamas supporters here or in Canada.
They are Palestinian supporters.

Stop that lie already, it just confirms you are racist.

 
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You are not speaking your mind. You are beating around the bush. This is not about the protest. This is about your opinion of who is protesting and for what. That is racism, not reason. Similarly, you are not pro-Israel. You are not anti-Palestine. You are simply, anti-Muslim. You need to take stock of what you feel, instead of unloading a whole bunch of nonsensical and racist stereotypes as if they are true just because in your mind it all makes perfect sense.

As far as protests go, yes they can be held anywhere. As long as they have the necessary approvals from the authorities, do not indulge in any violence, they can protest.

Pro-Palestinian protests are not "against" individual people, or more specifically against Jews - that does not make sense. You don't protest against people. You protest for a cause.
Really? "Kill the Jews" "From the river to the sea" Those phrases shouted and on signs at the pro-Palestinian demonstrations aren't against Jews?

Seems to me they promote the annihilation of the Jewish people...
 
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Kautilya

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Really? "Kill the Jews" "From the river to the sea" Those phrases shouted and on signs at the pro-Palestinian demonstrations aren't against Jews?

Seems to me they promote the annihilation of the Jewish people...
I haven't seen any in Canada? Also, of all the pro-Palestine protests in Toronto, how many of them used such rhetoric even if they did?

Also, people are angry. They may use hyperbole sometimes, but I think it is directed more at Israel than at Jews for being Jews. An Anti-Israel stance is not Antisemitism, imo. Which is why I don't think Frank, for example, is antisemitic. He is just anti-Israel.
 

Phil C. McNasty

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DOW is down over 1,200 points last month. My stocks are taking a beating :oops:
 

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You are not speaking your mind. You are beating around the bush. This is not about the protest. This is about your opinion of who is protesting and for what. That is racism, not reason. Similarly, you are not pro-Israel. You are not anti-Palestine. You are simply, anti-Muslim. You need to take stock of what you feel, instead of unloading a whole bunch of nonsensical and racist stereotypes as if they are true just because in your mind it all makes perfect sense.

As far as protests go, yes they can be held anywhere. As long as they have the necessary approvals from the authorities, do not indulge in any violence, they can protest.

Pro-Palestinian protests are not "against" individual people, or more specifically against Jews - that does not make sense. You don't protest against people. You protest for a cause.
Wow, more blatant projection and profiling/labeling of racism. What’s that make you Kautilya? No better than people who see extremist in every Muslim?

So just because people have concerns about it in residential neighborhoods. Not the least of which is people who by far…are victims of hate crimes….( see recent incidents in the news) in your twisted world that’s makes them racist.
 
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Kautilya

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Wow, more blatant projection and profiling/labeling of racism. What’s that make you Kautilya? No better than people who see extremist in every Muslim?

So just because people have concerns about it in residential neighborhoods. Not the least of which is people who by far…are victims of hate crimes….( see recent incidents in the news) in your twisted world that’s makes them racist.
No, John wasn't expressing concern about protests in residential neighborhoods.

He was stereotyping pro-Palestinian supporters as, violent, anarchists who are antisemitic. Has any pro-Palestinian protest devolved into anarchy and violence in Toronto? No. Who gets stereotyped that way usually especially in regards to this conflict? Muslims. There is evidence for it in this very thread. Hence my comment that it is racism.

It is important to be pro-Israel, yes. It is also important to be anti-Hamas, yes. But it is also important, to not just be pro-Palestine, but also to a) Not to stereotype everyone who is for the pro-Palestinian cause as Muslim. b) Not to consider a pro-Palestinian stance as being antisemitic. c) Not to consider an anti-Israel position to be antisemitic and lastly d) Not to assume that pro-Palestinian protestors will automatically resort to violence, even though it is demonstrably false.
 

Phil C. McNasty

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Who gets stereotyped that way usually especially in regards to this conflict? Muslims.
There is evidence for it in this very thread. Hence my comment that it is racism
Islam is not a race
 

richaceg

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There are no Hamas supporters here or in Canada.
They are Palestinian supporters.

Stop that lie already, it just confirms you are racist.

There's no lie...pro Palestinians have no condemnation of hamas....they call out one side....like you do...that's why nobody outside of pro Palestinians change their mind on you....you condemn one side keep supporting hamas... they will be gone soon.
 

richaceg

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So there you have it....adjust because pro Palestinians came out in droves....Israel is now a terrorist organization you can no longer hide what you are....
 

Frankfooter

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Really? "Kill the Jews" "From the river to the sea" Those phrases shouted and on signs at the pro-Palestinian demonstrations aren't against Jews?

Seems to me they promote the annihilation of the Jewish people...
'River to sea' isn't antisemitic anymore. Now its just a call to end apartheid and let Palestinians live in freedom.
Even Jews do it.

 

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Yes and who are the perpetrators of hate crimes against Jews? It is far-right, white nationalist, neo-Nazis. That is who. Not Muslims. Not a bunch of pro-Palestinian, multi-ethnic, multi-national, multi-religious, multi-racial group of protestors. So try again. It is perfectly legitimate, and allowed, to protest anywhere as long as proper approvals are sought and people do not engage in violence.
Have any proof or statistics to back those blatantly racist comments up?
 
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