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Israel at war

Klatuu

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Wrong, you don't trade hostages with prisoners franky....that's a textbook terrorist move....the offer now is Surrender and return hostages....Hamas don't get to demand shit...it's on them to do this if they really care about palestinians...
When you pontificate like this, the quality of your analysis seems akin to this:

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shack

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All because of a 75 year occupation Israel refuses to end. Why do you back killing civilians?
So you are supporting the violence and genocide of Oct. 7

You keep saying that you're against those things but you continue to support them when they are used against Israelis/Jew.

Your words are hollow. You have no credibility.
 

mandrill

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No, Palestinians want their freedom. From the river to the sea. They scream it from the top of their lungs. That’s never hate. You and the Hebron settlers hate Palestinians and are in favor of Jewish supremacy.
Yup. When you slice a mother's breasts off in front of her kids and roast babies in front of their mother, that ain't hate at all.

How could anyone think such a thing?!
 

Frankfooter

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It never ends because Hamas' charter says that Israel cannot exist.
No, they updated it in 2013 and said they'd settle for a two state solution.
And yesterday they said they're ready to sit at a table and talk two state.

But the Likud charter still says they want all of 'Eretz' Israel.
Of course you're totally ok with wiping Palestine off the map, as you keep defending here.

The problem is zionism, a colonial settler movement based on racial supremacy.
 

mandrill

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It never ends because the 75 year old occupation has never ended.
75 years ago. Most people born in 1948 are now dead or soon will be. This is a conflict about shit that took place in great grandad's lifetime. And what was in place before 1948 was a British colonial regime, which the Arabs hated. And before that, the Ottoman Empire, which the Arabs hated. The Arabs haven't ruled themselves since the days of Saladin.

The Israelis aren't going away. The Palestinians are dumb not to accept that and work towards a 2-state solution.
 

mandrill

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And now the Jews in Hebron throw urine and feces on Palestinians as they walk.
Which is deplorable as well.

But October 7 didn't exactly make the Palestinians popular with the Israelis either.
 

richaceg

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No, they updated it in 2013 and said they'd settle for a two state solution.
And yesterday they said they're ready to sit at a table and talk two state.

But the Likud charter still says they want all of 'Eretz' Israel.
Of course you're totally ok with wiping Palestine off the map, as you keep defending here.

The problem is zionism, a colonial settler movement based on racial supremacy.
So after their actions of Oct 7, they have the audacity to say "hold on, let's talk peace"... after parading their "trophies" in Oct 7, behead babies, "hey, we're ready to go for 2 state solution" why didn't they do that before oct 7 franky? what changed their mind?
 
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richaceg

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You cannot negotiate with a terrorist group. The Israelis are well known for covert and special operations. They should use that to free hostages and take out senior Hamas leaders, similar to how Bin Laden and al-Baghdadi were.

They should also work with the PA/PLO to find a lasting diplomatic solution even if it seems like a long shot.
Except PA/PLO has no say in Gaza...
 

Dutch Oven

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They are the internationally recognized Palestinian representatives. Israel can eliminate top Hamas leaders and PA/PLO can take over.
No, they can't just eliminate leaders. The rank and file have been brainwashed. They will not accept new leaders who seek peace with Israel. The Israelis will need to eliminate the vast majority of Hamas fighting forces for any new leadership to take control.
 

richaceg

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They are the internationally recognized Palestinian representatives. Israel can eliminate top Hamas leaders and PA/PLO can take over.
That's like the best case scenario in this instance....
 
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