Who will you be voting for??

Who gets your vote?

  • Liberal

    Votes: 56 41.2%
  • Conservatives

    Votes: 64 47.1%
  • NDP

    Votes: 1 0.7%
  • Green

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Bloc Quebecois

    Votes: 3 2.2%
  • People's Party

    Votes: 7 5.1%
  • Other

    Votes: 5 3.7%

  • Total voters
    136
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Skoob

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Both play a role.
The platform as well as anti-authoritarianism.
It is still an accomplishment because it took the right messaging to provide the voter with the confidence to vote them in, when they were trailing 20+ points.
In other words, as Wyatt tried to explain to you...their motivation was fear.
The rest of the platform was Conservative in nature so no difference there.
 

Skoob

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That is your mental gymnastics to call it conservative policies.
Its Carney's platform.
Pierre losing his seat is unprecedented.
How come the conservatives increased their seats in parliament (which is the actual conservative accomplishment), but its leader lost his riding? lmfao.
You think after 6 years of pushing the carbon tax and ignoring out of control immigration and government growth for a decade, Carney suddenly came up with his platform on his own without copying the Conservatives who were pushing all those for years?

You are completely brainwashed.
 

Skoob

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No, don’t you see this is actually a win for Pee Pee? Now he never has to get his security clearance and can speak freely about whatever he wants outside the House of Commons because well, he doesn’t have a seat anymore.

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Tell us what security clearance Poilievre doesn't have and why?
And then tell us why the Liberals and their supporters suddenly support Conservative policies that Carney will be implementing after a decade of fighting against them?
 

Shaquille Oatmeal

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You think after 6 years of pushing the carbon tax and ignoring out of control immigration and government growth for a decade, Carney suddenly came up with his platform on his own without copying the Conservatives who were pushing all those for years?
Yes.
He saw the impact and changed course.
 

Shaquille Oatmeal

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They were all accomplishments. You just don't like them.

Conservatives had the best showing in more than a decade. You don't think that's an accomplishment?
Conservatives had more to do with the collapse of the NDP than anyone else did.
Conservatives pushed the carbon tax election narrative that ultimately had Trudeau resign and Carney adopt dropping it.

just because you are brainwashed by the Liberal propaganda machine doesn't mean that politically the Conservatives didn't have any accomplishments.
Conservatives had the best showing in more than a decade. You don't think that's an accomplishment? - Yes that is an accomplishment, as I myself said.
Conservatives had more to do with the collapse of the NDP than anyone else did - Not a solely conservative accomplishment. Both Libs and Cons took up NDP seats.
Conservatives pushed the carbon tax election narrative that ultimately had Trudeau resign and Carney adopt dropping it. - Carney dropped it not because of conservatives but because it was ineffective and unhelpful.
But after all this, nothing to show for.
They aren't the ruling party and their leader lost his seat.
 
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Skoob

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Skoob

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Yes well meaning people tend to fear Nazism.
And if you want to cope calling it conservative platform, so be it.
I call it a Conservative platform because that's where it was copied from.
You're just too brainwashed to realize that and think it was magically developed in a few weeks after a decade of the complete opposite policies being pushed.

That's what brainwashing does to people like you.
 

Skoob

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Conservatives had the best showing in more than a decade. You don't think that's an accomplishment? - Yes that is an accomplishment, as I myself said.
Conservatives had more to do with the collapse of the NDP than anyone else did - Not a solely conservative accomplishment. Both Libs and Cons took up NDP seats.
Conservatives pushed the carbon tax election narrative that ultimately had Trudeau resign and Carney adopt dropping it. - Carney dropped it not because of conservatives but because it was ineffective and unhelpful.
But after all this, nothing to show for.
They aren't the ruling party and their leader lost his seat.
The NDP lost seats because the Conservatives were constantly calling them out for supporting the Liberal agenda and not joining them to push for an election multiple times. Stop spreading misinformation.
Carney dropped the carbon tax because his own party and multiple MPs feared losing the election on that key issue. No other reason.

Poilievre held his seat for 20 years. Why does it matter if the opposition under his leadership on the whole is even larger in this election compared to others in the past? Are you desperate?

Seems to me you are trying to peddle misinformation to justify the hypocrisy of the Liberals and your own.

It's not working for you.
 

Phil C. McNasty

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Carney dropped the carbon tax because his own party and multiple MPs feared losing the election on that key issue. No other reason
This is 100% correct.

And it was PP's original idea to "axe the tax", the Libs just stole it from him.
So PP deserves a lot of credit for Canadians paying less tax now

 

squeezer

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You think Poilievre lost his lead due to Carney? Lol!

He lost his lead because people like you believed Carney would "stand up to Trump" but can't explain how he plans to do that in any way that's different than anyone else?

I can't wait for all those Conservative policies to be implemented whether it's the Conservatives or Liberals. Like I said a win-win.

PS what I would be thinking if I were you is what happens in 4 years when/if Trump is no longer POTUS and after 4 years of Carney doing squat against protecting Canada with no one to distract to?
He lost because he represented MAGA lite. HE LOST his seat because

1. he supported morons who invaded Ottawa and fed them coffee and donuts.
2. he threatened to fire civil servants.

so tell me, should he be able to stay in Stornoway on the taxpayer's dime, considering he no longer holds a seat?

Imagine the NeoCons had one and their leader couldn't win his own seat. ON the other side, Carney won his seat quite easily.

As for dealing with Trumputin, did you hear what Trump had to say today in regards to Carney our new Prime Minister?

I guess he will not be able to get a security pass at this point since he isn't an official member of the house?? HAHAHAHAHAHAHA


Tears Scooby, KEEP giving me your tears.
 

Shaquille Oatmeal

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Lol! yeah...what a remarkable coincidence...now I see how he sucked you in.
I already told you I dont care about the carbon tax.
I would have voted for Carney even if he hadn't paused the carbon tax.
Carney could only do that once he became PM and he did.
Yes, am sure there was political gamesmanship too, but so what?
Its an election and if a policy is both ineffective and unhelpful, just take your oppositions teeth out of it and pause the ineffective tax.
2 birds, 1 stone.
Axe the tax from Pierre isn't a complex and novel idea no one could have thought about before.
 

versitile1

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Tell us what security clearance Poilievre doesn't have and why?
And then tell us why the Liberals and their supporters suddenly support Conservative policies that Carney will be implementing after a decade of fighting against them?
Tell “us”? Are you more than one person? Or are you so delusional that you think you speak for anyone other than yourself?

You really should get help for that copium addiction you recently picked up.

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Shaquille Oatmeal

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The NDP lost seats because the Conservatives were constantly calling them out for supporting the Liberal agenda and not joining them to push for an election multiple times. Stop spreading misinformation.
Carney dropped the carbon tax because his own party and multiple MPs feared losing the election on that key issue. No other reason.

Poilievre held his seat for 20 years. Why does it matter if the opposition under his leadership on the whole is even larger in this election compared to others in the past? Are you desperate?
The NDP lost seats both to the Libs and to the Cons.
They lost both because the cons called them out, and because people wanted their vote to go to the Libs so the Libs can be elected.
I have already addressed the carbon tax in my prior post.
Pierre losing his seat after 20 years wouldn't have been any different even if there weren't 90 people on the ballot.
Fanjoy got 4315 votes more than Pierre. The remaining 89 that includes the NDP candidate got a total of 2515 votes.
Pierre wouldn't have won even if it was just him and Fanjoy on the ballot.
His ousting from his riding he held for 21 years, was therefore unprecedented and a statement.
You sound desperate to minimize this slap on the face for the cons.
 
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Shaquille Oatmeal

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I call it a Conservative platform because that's where it was copied from.
You're just too brainwashed to realize that and think it was magically developed in a few weeks after a decade of the complete opposite policies being pushed.
That's what brainwashing does to people like you.
There were similarities.
But they are not the same.
There are certain economic policies where you cannot do much more radically different things.
Such as tariff response.
Except for the carbon tax, the spend plan they both put out were quite different.
So no, their platforms were not the same at all barring a few similarities.
 
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Skoob

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What is sad is that you are a tad delusional.
Last I checked it was the Conservatives that wanted to axe the tax, control immigration and build pipelines.
Remember that?
Or is it all forgotten like the past decade?
 
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Skoob

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He lost because he represented MAGA lite. HE LOST his seat because

1. he supported morons who invaded Ottawa and fed them coffee and donuts.
2. he threatened to fire civil servants.

so tell me, should he be able to stay in Stornoway on the taxpayer's dime, considering he no longer holds a seat?

Imagine the NeoCons had one and their leader couldn't win his own seat. ON the other side, Carney won his seat quite easily.

As for dealing with Trumputin, did you hear what Trump had to say today in regards to Carney our new Prime Minister?

I guess he will not be able to get a security pass at this point since he isn't an official member of the house?? HAHAHAHAHAHAHA


Tears Scooby, KEEP giving me your tears.
Those "morons" took the government to court and it was determined that Trudeau and his woke band of thieves violated the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms. So there's that.
Carney will be reducing the size of government as one of his campaign promises. If I was a civil servant I would be threatened by that promise...wouldn't you be? As a non-civil servant I'm hopeful Carney keeps his promise.

Imagine if the Liberals made someone the PM of Canada without ever having been elected or having a seat. Just imagine.....crazy right?

Trump loves Carney...Carney loves Trump. You elected the wrong person if you worry about that.
 
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Skoob

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I already told you I dont care about the carbon tax.
I would have voted for Carney even if he hadn't paused the carbon tax.
Carney could only do that once he became PM and he did.
Yes, am sure there was political gamesmanship too, but so what?
Its an election and if a policy is both ineffective and unhelpful, just take your oppositions teeth out of it and pause the ineffective tax.
2 birds, 1 stone.
Axe the tax from Pierre isn't a complex and novel idea no one could have thought about before.
You sound like a climate change denier. Based on factual history, the Liberal party would consider you to be one.

I say this because that's what people have been called over the past 6 years if they ever criticized the carbon tax.

Oh and if you want to adopt immigration control like Carney has, then you would be a racist as well.

I'll give you some time to sort out your hypocrisy.
 
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Skoob

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Tell “us”? Are you more than one person? Or are you so delusional that you think you speak for anyone other than yourself?

You really should get help for that copium addiction you recently picked up.

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If you've been paying attention, which you clearly haven't been, you would notice that this thread is about who people here would vote for. The poll that was taken is at the top of this thread. Most would vote Conservative.
That would be the "us" I was referring to. But it could also apply to anyone following this thread. I'm not picky.

So now that your ignorance has been called out & cleared up and without more of your obvious distraction tactics, do you care to answer my questions or do you just want to continue to troll and look foolish?
 
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