Israel at war
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They have. In one the said that they were willing to sacrifice Palestinian people to meet their goals (though I have no idea how they thought attacking 1400 civilians would help them) In another they claimed that they were only going after military targets then stormed out when the host challenged them on it.
As I said, I have no clue what Hamas thought they would achieve other than killing some Jews. maybe they thought their Iranian backers would declare war and somehow wipe out Israel. I do know that anyone who cheered Hamas' attack is motivated by hatred and not by human rights in any conceivable way.
Your claims are moronic and motivate3d simply by an obsessive hatred of Jews living in the middle East. There is no 'back' because Palestinians haven't ever ruled the land to begin with. A Palestinian state should be created but that won't happen as long as people like you and Hamas think violence will create peace.
So you only want to talk about one side of a conflict? Sorry but racism from both sides is part of what prevents peace so trying to blame only one side is useless.
And attacks on Jews driving in the West Bank has been a daily event for decades. Of course you don't want to talk about Palestinains perpetuating the conflict.
I'm not anti-LGBT, I am only anti certain parts of the LBGT movementBut you always post anti-LGBTQ stuff on other threads.
Mandela was NEVER listed as aterrorist by Canada.
The IRA WERE a terrorist group but thanks to NEGOTIATIONS, they were given amnesty when they committed to peace.
Moral people including many Palestinians would love Hamas to become a purely political organization. Meanwhile Hamas is still committed to death and destruction and you're still trying to claim that Oct. 7 targeted military.
No contradiction unless you have an alternate version of history. The region is currently rule by Israel. before that it was Jordan, the Brits, the Ottomans, Abbasids, Ayyubid , Crusaders, Byzantines, Romans, .... Except for very brief periods between empires, the last independent Kingdom in the region was Judea.
As for borders, Olmert offered a completely contiguous West bank with a corridor to Gaza. And if you think countries have to be contiguous, you may want to have a word with your own country about their border with Bangladesh.
The UN says that the only solution is a negotiated peace based on the pre-67 lines but can include land swaps. But what do they know.
You can say this about the videos Hamas posted of their training and from the Oct 7 attack but you still pretend they don't exist.
Once again Frank pretends attacks targeting civilians are an appropriate response to political disagreements.
The ONLY thing Hamas will get out of their recent terrorism is to temporarily delay normalization between Israel and Arab states.
We know exactly what Israel has been thinking. Every time they move towards peace, they are subjected to violence from groups openly dedicated to the elimination of Israel's Jewish presence.
1937 Peel Commission, 1948 Partition, Camp David, Clinton parameters, evacuating Gaza and some WB settlements in 2005, Olmert's offer in 2008, ....
That tends to happen in response to another state declaring war by slaughtering a bunch of civilians. This is the only conflict in history where people think the people being attacked are responsible for feeding their attackers people.
Hate has a home everywhere.
What I find strange is the way that some progressives complain about authoritarianism and religious extremism but are happy to make excuses for Hamas or Iran.
Some of the Settlements were Jewish towns established in the 1920s until the were ethnically cleansed by the Jordanian army and that includes the Old City of Jerusalem where Jews were a large group from before zionism was a thing. If people think that Palestinian descendants have a right to go to their family's former home, why shouldn't Jewish descendants be treated differently?
As I said, the borders are something that needs to be negotiated.
Not if it is used for military purposes like housing equipment.
Hamas hiding out in hospitals make them fair game.
Another example of how little Hamas cares about Gazan civilians. They are sub-human animals (Hamas, not Gazan civilians).
Not that he has the conviction of his beliefs or guts to even acknowledge those acts.
