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shack

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Can you name a time in history when the strategy you're proposing Israel employs has been successful?
Every single time.

If their strategy would not have worked, they'd have been driven into the sea with each Arab attack.

The Israelis are not dinks.

A better question would be, when has the Palestinian strategy been successful? Which aggression furthered their cause?
 

Not getting younger

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I chuckle at people who espouse self determination. Bit think it’s up to us,/them or we have the right to tell Israel what to do. :)

1967
The last Israel said “enough” and tried something different.
 

DinkleMouse

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What strategy would you propose?
None; I don't believe any strategy will achieve the objective shack has proposed, therefore I can't propose one that would achieve it. But I do think that the strategy shack has proposed actively moves further away from the objective. While I don't believe any strategy will stop the attacks against Israel completely, I believe the strategy shack has proposed will actually increase them.
 
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DinkleMouse

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Every time. If their strategy would not have worked, they'd have been driven into the sea with each Arab attack.

The Israelis are not dinks.
If the strategy worked, there would be no more attacks. That was the objective you stated. The fact that there are ongoing attacks proves the strategy didn't work.
 

Butler1000

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Except culture matters. The LTTE were predominantly Hindus.

The Islamic world does not work that way. The more the war, the more the death and destruction, the more they will actively seek it, because it is a martyrdom culture. Hence, DM is right. It will enable them, instead of discouraging them.
You just killed your own argument.

They do actively seek it. Life is cheap. And Martyrdom is preferable to peace. Offer war they accept, offer peace, you are weak.

They won't stop.
 

shack

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How do you know they wont keep the peace if solutions are found?
Seeing as they've broken every treaty and accord that has been agreed to, it is a very reasonable assumption.

Which agreements has Israel unilaterally broken without Arab aggression preceding it?
 

Butler1000

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Seriously, the best negotiating teams the world have tried to bring things around. And failed. You guy think you can do better?
 

Phil C. McNasty

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Can you name a time in history when the strategy you're proposing Israel employs has been successful? I can't
But I can. The 6-day war.
Egypt, Jordan and Syria have been relatively silent after Israel kicked all their asses.
Sadat even wanted to make peace with Israel afterwards, but the muslim extremists wouldnt allow it and assassinated him
 

DinkleMouse

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A better question would be, when has the Palestinian strategy been successful? Which aggression furthered their cause?
Why is that a better question? You proposed a strategy and an objective and I asked you to defend your position. I haven't defended any "Palestinian strategy", so I don't see how it's relevant. If it makes you feel better I don't defend Hamas' strategy. It's never going to work either. Are you happy now?
 

Phil C. McNasty

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Crazy amount of tunnels Hamas has :oops:

 

kyleb899

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The western leaders supported this crap to make Isreal powerhouse in the military, the media here so biased, only supported the bum government
 

Frankfooter

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Lol, Terbs clown and village idiot opens his yap again. No it’s not. Else the protest, post such as yours would seek to put as much pressure on Iran, Hamas PIJ etc

Ok, idiot.
how do you propose to ensure the ceasefire last more than a “few days” this time. And if/when it doesn’t what will you do. Other than whine more about Israel and expect them to rollover.
Stop with the insults, they get you banned.

After Israel stops, charge the leaders of both, drag them away to the Hague.
Make Israel fix everything they broke.
Take down the prison walls of Gaza.
End apartheid.


 

DinkleMouse

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But I can. The 6-day war.
Egypt, Jordan and Syria have been relatively silent after Israel kicked all their asses.
Sadat even wanted to make peace with Israel afterwards, but the muslim extremists wouldnt allow it and assassinated him
Can you? Because you didn't. Those weren't terrorist attacks. That's like saying Israel's strategy will work because Rome conquered Italy.

I'm speaking about retaliatory attacks against a largely civilian population in response to terrorist attacks in effort to reduce or eliminate the occurrence of terrorist attacks. That was what shack had proposed. When has that ever worked?
 

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This is going to change the travel plans of Israeli political and military leaders.


International Criminal Court: 'Active investigations' into alleged war crimes committed in Israel, Gaza and West Bank
International Criminal Court prosecutor Karim Khan has visited the Rafah border crossing this weekend and said that the ICC has “active investigations ongoing in relation to the crimes, allegedly committed in Israel on the 7th of October and also in relation to Gaza and the West Bank”.
 
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