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Phil C. McNasty

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Can you name a time in history when the strategy you're proposing Israel employs has been successful? I can't
But I can. The 6-day war.
Egypt, Jordan and Syria have been relatively silent after Israel kicked all their asses.
Sadat even wanted to make peace with Israel afterwards, but the muslim extremists wouldnt allow it and assassinated him
 

DinkleMouse

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A better question would be, when has the Palestinian strategy been successful? Which aggression furthered their cause?
Why is that a better question? You proposed a strategy and an objective and I asked you to defend your position. I haven't defended any "Palestinian strategy", so I don't see how it's relevant. If it makes you feel better I don't defend Hamas' strategy. It's never going to work either. Are you happy now?
 

Phil C. McNasty

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Crazy amount of tunnels Hamas has :oops:

 

kyleb899

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The western leaders supported this crap to make Isreal powerhouse in the military, the media here so biased, only supported the bum government
 

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Lol, Terbs clown and village idiot opens his yap again. No it’s not. Else the protest, post such as yours would seek to put as much pressure on Iran, Hamas PIJ etc

Ok, idiot.
how do you propose to ensure the ceasefire last more than a “few days” this time. And if/when it doesn’t what will you do. Other than whine more about Israel and expect them to rollover.
Stop with the insults, they get you banned.

After Israel stops, charge the leaders of both, drag them away to the Hague.
Make Israel fix everything they broke.
Take down the prison walls of Gaza.
End apartheid.


 

DinkleMouse

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But I can. The 6-day war.
Egypt, Jordan and Syria have been relatively silent after Israel kicked all their asses.
Sadat even wanted to make peace with Israel afterwards, but the muslim extremists wouldnt allow it and assassinated him
Can you? Because you didn't. Those weren't terrorist attacks. That's like saying Israel's strategy will work because Rome conquered Italy.

I'm speaking about retaliatory attacks against a largely civilian population in response to terrorist attacks in effort to reduce or eliminate the occurrence of terrorist attacks. That was what shack had proposed. When has that ever worked?
 

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This is going to change the travel plans of Israeli political and military leaders.


International Criminal Court: 'Active investigations' into alleged war crimes committed in Israel, Gaza and West Bank
International Criminal Court prosecutor Karim Khan has visited the Rafah border crossing this weekend and said that the ICC has “active investigations ongoing in relation to the crimes, allegedly committed in Israel on the 7th of October and also in relation to Gaza and the West Bank”.
 
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Can you? Because you didn't. Those weren't terrorist attacks. That's like saying Israel's strategy will work because Rome conquered Italy.

I'm speaking about retaliatory attacks against a largely civilian population in response to terrorist attacks in effort to reduce or eliminate the occurrence of terrorist attacks. That was what shack had proposed. When has that ever worked?
But he’s also right. Just depends on how it’s viewed. What clearly hasn’t worked, and would be insane to keep trying is peace negotiations. What did buy some measure was declaring war. And 1967.

Also worked with Al Qaida. Don’t hear much from them anymore.

Seriously. what does anyone suggest?. And what right does anyone have to think they have the right and authority to tell Israelis what to do. They will do, what they deem right for themselves. For a bunch of people to go incessantly about self determination but be so eager to stick their noses in Israel’s business is almost comical.

And in some ways, that too is a root problem in the Mid East. The west thinking it’s our business, and trying to force our values on them. But that too, is also a liberal trait these days.
 
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DinkleMouse

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But he’s also right.
He's not right and your entire dissertation trying to explain it is asinine. You can't claim Israel's defeat of Egypt in a conventional war is the same as retaliatory strikes against a civilian population in an attempt to turn them away from supporting terrorists. There is no "point of view" which is both sensical and where those can be equated. They are entirely separate strategies against entirely different types of belligerents that achieved an entirely different objective, which are the only 3 points involved in the argument I'm making.

Edit: Al Qaïda grew in strength while the US was bombing civilians and only diminished since the coalition's announced withdrawal. So your own example disproves your argument.
 

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He's not right and your entire dissertation trying to explain it is asinine. You can't claim Israel's defeat of Egypt in a conventional war is the same as retaliatory strikes against a civilian population in an attempt to turn them away from supporting terrorists. There is no "point of view" which is both sensical and where those can be equated. They are entirely separate strategies against entirely different types of belligerents that achieved an entirely different objective, which are the only 3 points involved in the argument I'm making.
Lmao, your entire pretense in this is asinine. You haven’t offered any viewpoints, perspectives, or suggestions. Just your usual thus far. Almost like someone sitting in the weeds waiting to pounce on something.

What do you suggest DM
 

Phil C. McNasty

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Can you? Because you didn't. Those weren't terrorist attacks. That's like saying Israel's strategy will work because Rome conquered Italy.

I'm speaking about retaliatory attacks against a largely civilian population in response to terrorist attacks in effort to reduce or eliminate the occurrence of terrorist attacks. That was what shack had proposed. When has that ever worked?
Its not a retaliatory attack against a largely civilian population, its a retaliatory attack against Hamas who hides amongst a largely civilian population.

And what choice do Israel have though??
If they dont try and completely eliminate Hamas there will be many more terror attacks in the future.
War sucks, but sometimes you have no choice
 
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