Be more specific.
Are you proposing a two state solution or cementing apartheid with bigger walls around the bantustans?
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Are you proposing a two state solution or cementing apartheid with bigger walls around the bantustans?
The floor is yours once again. What are you proposing? Explain the strategy being implemented by Hamas. What is their most brilliant move so far? Besides bringing down the wrath of their next door neighbor upon the civilian populace time and time again? Israel has made them many offers.
The Middle East images on the news are horrifying. Israel has initiated its ground offensive. Its going to be an intense battle, with terrible losses of life on both sides.
Hamas is constantly releasing videos of the death and destruction caused by the Israeli attacks. I would like all the videos of the Oct. 7 attack released to the public, so that the world will see exactly what extreme war crimes Hamas was guilty of, and why Israel’s retaliation is so severe. Hamas is clearly winning the propaganda war.
Hezbollah is already involved in small attacks on US forces in the region, with the US retaliating on a small scale. Iran is backing both Hezbollah and Hamas. I fear that this could get extremely ugly with escalating hostilities between the US and the Arab countries in the region, not to mention Turkey, and even Russia, if the US were to attack Iran. Even China is now getting involved, blaming Israel for the hostilities, and even the Jews in the Western world for their support of Israel.
In my opinion Israel has gotten more than enough payback for Oct. 7. I do not feel there is any positive outcome possible from more hostilities. In fact I feel that the longer it goes on the more the hostilities will spread, with potential for a wide-spread war involving many countries.
I do not believe Hamas can be defeated without unacceptable Israeli soldier casualties, and the Arab children are so indoctrinated against the Israelis that there will be more Hamas recruits for generations to come.
It is time for a cease fire, and serious negotiations, when the emotions have settled down, for a 2 state solution that accepts Israel’s right to exist, and gives the Palestinians their own land, without the apartheid they have had to endure for many years. Of course this will require a much more moderate government to be in power in Israel for this to be achieved. Netanyahu must go.
I realize that I have changed my views from being optimistic for a victory over Hamas, to a more realistic one, in my opinion, that Hamas cannot be eradicated. A mutually acceptable and peaceful 2 state solution must finally be found...
Hamas is constantly releasing videos of the death and destruction caused by the Israeli attacks. I would like all the videos of the Oct. 7 attack released to the public, so that the world will see exactly what extreme war crimes Hamas was guilty of, and why Israel’s retaliation is so severe. Hamas is clearly winning the propaganda war.
Hezbollah is already involved in small attacks on US forces in the region, with the US retaliating on a small scale. Iran is backing both Hezbollah and Hamas. I fear that this could get extremely ugly with escalating hostilities between the US and the Arab countries in the region, not to mention Turkey, and even Russia, if the US were to attack Iran. Even China is now getting involved, blaming Israel for the hostilities, and even the Jews in the Western world for their support of Israel.
In my opinion Israel has gotten more than enough payback for Oct. 7. I do not feel there is any positive outcome possible from more hostilities. In fact I feel that the longer it goes on the more the hostilities will spread, with potential for a wide-spread war involving many countries.
I do not believe Hamas can be defeated without unacceptable Israeli soldier casualties, and the Arab children are so indoctrinated against the Israelis that there will be more Hamas recruits for generations to come.
It is time for a cease fire, and serious negotiations, when the emotions have settled down, for a 2 state solution that accepts Israel’s right to exist, and gives the Palestinians their own land, without the apartheid they have had to endure for many years. Of course this will require a much more moderate government to be in power in Israel for this to be achieved. Netanyahu must go.
I realize that I have changed my views from being optimistic for a victory over Hamas, to a more realistic one, in my opinion, that Hamas cannot be eradicated. A mutually acceptable and peaceful 2 state solution must finally be found...
That’s the ideal.
What shred, just any shred, do you have that Hamas, or Arab states will abide by it, for the first time in history?
They wont.
If you give Palestinians a piece of land they'll just use that to launch more terror attacks
I can only hope. I fear that the current hostilities will not end well for anybody involved, and for the world in general.
Exactly what a few naive idealist like Frank and Klatuu here utterly refuse to see and admit. There is not one, shred of past behavior or history they can point at, that would encourage hope for peace. In fact only the opposite. Either for Israel, or the world.
I know xmontrealer. Go back to page 1. My initial thoughts were.
A ) hoping for a fast end
B) that it wouldn’t escalate
Near as I can see not much has changed other than a bunch of naive people and Palestinian and/or Hamas supporters are crying for ceasefires.
Notice none of them ( here or out there) are demanding the same of Hamas, IJ, Hezbollah, Iran.?
Oh, let me post the same thing I answer every time this is asked.
Ceasefire.
Investigate the leaders of both sides for war crimes.
Hang them if found guilty.
End apartheid.
Don't be an idiot.
If you call for ceasefire that's a call for all parties to stop fighting.
Then investigate and charge all who committed war crimes and/or terrorism.
Generally no.
This would be a first time but these crimes are as bad as you can get.
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Out of 8 billion? LOL.
Like I've said before, you're clearly a fringe element.
Regardless, I was talking about TERB. You have a well-deserved bad reputation for being a hateful person. And it's because of the views you espouse that, as even you said, the world hates. That's how you're widely viewed here.
Do you think that Gaza's or Hamas' situation will improve once this current conflict is done with?
Or will the Oct. 7 attack result in another setback for your side? A stupidly repetitious and avoidable setback.
Please enlighten us with your instincts and political savvy. Most likely your answer will just be more questions. You seem incapable of giving a straight answer.
Lol, Terbs clown and village idiot opens his yap again. No it’s not. Else the protest, post such as yours would seek to put as much pressure on Iran, Hamas PIJ etc
Ok, idiot.
how do you propose to ensure the ceasefire last more than a “few days” this time. And if/when it doesn’t what will you do. Other than whine more about Israel and expect them to rollover.
Maybe. I think Nazi Germany would dissagree, as would many others…
How will you ensure they keep the peace, and what will you do when they don’t? And is there anything you can point at, that suggest there’s hope for it to begin with?
