Israel at war

shack

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So you claim Israel keeps taking more and more of Palestine because Palestinians fight back when you take more and more of Palestine?
You are so bright.
Thanks for proving my point. You are just too funny.

Every time Israel gets attacked by Hamas the people of Gaza end up in a worse position. That's what I keep trying to tell you. Not one attack has advanced their situation. They just suffer more after every attack.

Like I and Robert said, it's a stupid/insane strategy. D'uh.
 

shack

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Oh, now you're going to try to argue that the world loves genocide?
Doublespeak.

You had no valid retort. You know what I am saying about you is true.

People do not like you because of your views that you say people hate.
 

Robert Mugabe

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They'd have to negotiate some form of statehood, autonomy or peace. But it is also incumbent on the Palestinians to want to compromise.
In 1993 Israel handed over Gaza to Arafat who was in hiding somewhere. Anyway if you watch the Ben Shapiro vid. He explains. Jews were the original inhabitants of that land which included what is now Jordan, 1500 years before islam came into existence.
 

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Doublespeak.

You had no valid retort. You know what I am saying about you is true.

People do not like you because of your views that you say people hate.
There are 10's of millions of people with views like mine protesting the genocide and apartheid you love.
120 of the world's countries called out the racist shite you push.

You are a sad old man pushing racial supremacy and violence.


 
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They'd have to negotiate some form of statehood, autonomy or peace. But it is also incumbent on the Palestinians to want to compromise.
Be more specific.
Are you proposing a two state solution or cementing apartheid with bigger walls around the bantustans?
 

Robert Mugabe

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Be more specific.
Are you proposing a two state solution or cementing apartheid with bigger walls around the bantustans?
The floor is yours once again. What are you proposing? Explain the strategy being implemented by Hamas. What is their most brilliant move so far? Besides bringing down the wrath of their next door neighbor upon the civilian populace time and time again? Israel has made them many offers.
 

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The Middle East images on the news are horrifying. Israel has initiated its ground offensive. Its going to be an intense battle, with terrible losses of life on both sides.

Hamas is constantly releasing videos of the death and destruction caused by the Israeli attacks. I would like all the videos of the Oct. 7 attack released to the public, so that the world will see exactly what extreme war crimes Hamas was guilty of, and why Israel’s retaliation is so severe. Hamas is clearly winning the propaganda war.

Hezbollah is already involved in small attacks on US forces in the region, with the US retaliating on a small scale. Iran is backing both Hezbollah and Hamas. I fear that this could get extremely ugly with escalating hostilities between the US and the Arab countries in the region, not to mention Turkey, and even Russia, if the US were to attack Iran. Even China is now getting involved, blaming Israel for the hostilities, and even the Jews in the Western world for their support of Israel.

In my opinion Israel has gotten more than enough payback for Oct. 7. I do not feel there is any positive outcome possible from more hostilities. In fact I feel that the longer it goes on the more the hostilities will spread, with potential for a wide-spread war involving many countries.

I do not believe Hamas can be defeated without unacceptable Israeli soldier casualties, and the Arab children are so indoctrinated against the Israelis that there will be more Hamas recruits for generations to come.

It is time for a cease fire, and serious negotiations, when the emotions have settled down, for a 2 state solution that accepts Israel’s right to exist, and gives the Palestinians their own land, without the apartheid they have had to endure for many years. Of course this will require a much more moderate government to be in power in Israel for this to be achieved. Netanyahu must go.

I realize that I have changed my views from being optimistic for a victory over Hamas, to a more realistic one, in my opinion, that Hamas cannot be eradicated. A mutually acceptable and peaceful 2 state solution must finally be found...
 

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The Middle East images on the news are horrifying. Israel has initiated its ground offensive. Its going to be an intense battle, with terrible losses of life on both sides.

Hamas is constantly releasing videos of the death and destruction caused by the Israeli attacks. I would like all the videos of the Oct. 7 attack released to the public, so that the world will see exactly what extreme war crimes Hamas was guilty of, and why Israel’s retaliation is so severe. Hamas is clearly winning the propaganda war.

Hezbollah is already involved in small attacks on US forces in the region, with the US retaliating on a small scale. Iran is backing both Hezbollah and Hamas. I fear that this could get extremely ugly with escalating hostilities between the US and the Arab countries in the region, not to mention Turkey, and even Russia, if the US were to attack Iran. Even China is now getting involved, blaming Israel for the hostilities, and even the Jews in the Western world for their support of Israel.

In my opinion Israel has gotten more than enough payback for Oct. 7. I do not feel there is any positive outcome possible from more hostilities. In fact I feel that the longer it goes on the more the hostilities will spread, with potential for a wide-spread war involving many countries.

I do not believe Hamas can be defeated without unacceptable Israeli soldier casualties, and the Arab children are so indoctrinated against the Israelis that there will be more Hamas recruits for generations to come.

It is time for a cease fire, and serious negotiations, when the emotions have settled down, for a 2 state solution that accepts Israel’s right to exist, and gives the Palestinians their own land, without the apartheid they have had to endure for many years. Of course this will require a much more moderate government to be in power in Israel for this to be achieved. Netanyahu must go.

I realize that I have changed my views from being optimistic for a victory over Hamas, to a more realistic one, in my opinion, that Hamas cannot be eradicated. A mutually acceptable and peaceful 2 state solution must finally be found...
That’s the ideal.

What shred, just any shred, do you have that Hamas, or Arab states will abide by it, for the first time in history?
 
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That’s the ideal.

What shred, just any shred, do you have that Hamas, or Arab states will abide by it, for the first time in history?
They wont.

If you give Palestinians a piece of land they'll just use that to launch more terror attacks
 

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They wont.

If you give Palestinians a piece of land they'll just use that to launch more terror attacks
Exactly what a few naive idealist like Frank and Klatuu here utterly refuse to see and admit. There is not one, shred of past behavior or history they can point at, that would encourage hope for peace. In fact only the opposite. Either for Israel, or the world.

I know xmontrealer. Go back to page 1. My initial thoughts were.
A ) hoping for a fast end
B) that it wouldn’t escalate

Near as I can see not much has changed other than a bunch of naive people and Palestinian and/or Hamas supporters are crying for ceasefires.

Notice none of them ( here or out there) are demanding the same of Hamas, IJ, Hezbollah, Iran.?
 

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The floor is yours once again. What are you proposing? Explain the strategy being implemented by Hamas. What is their most brilliant move so far? Besides bringing down the wrath of their next door neighbor upon the civilian populace time and time again? Israel has made them many offers.
Oh, let me post the same thing I answer every time this is asked.

Ceasefire.
Investigate the leaders of both sides for war crimes.
Hang them if found guilty.
End apartheid.

 
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