Trump/Zelensky deal turns into Jerry Springer episode

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What it shows is that Putin certainly wasn't afraid of Sleepy Joe....LMAO That's why Putin started the war when sleepy Joe was President!!

Putin wouldn't have dared to start the war if Trump was president in 2020!!
Again - instead of deflecting with idiotic photos that prove absolutely nothing (except in your simple mind) - what proof do you have that Putin is in any way, shape or form afraid of Trump and would not have started the war if Trump was President in 2020?
 
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Valcazar

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There is no such thing as a security guarantee. Thats a mirage. Get used to it.
Interesting.
I didn't think you would go all in on "no peace deal is worth the paper it is printed on" given you constantly saying they need to make a peace deal with Putin, but here you are.
 

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With his domestic agenda he will lose Congress at the midterms.
That's kind of a normal swing in midterms especially with a slim House majority.

The U.S. has been due for a slowdown/recession. If that pushes out into late 2026, it would certainly hurt the Republicans.
 

Valcazar

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The Ukraine is probably more vulnerable to collapse than Russia. The West can send armaments and supplies, but they won't send soldiers.
Quick side note.
Why do you call it "The Ukraine"?
Just noticed you seem to do that all the time.
 
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Valcazar

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Mental gymnastics to turn it around and blame Zelensky for something Vance and Trump started.
Its the MAGA playbook.
Trump does something.
His fanbois run around trying to intellectualize it and make it more palatable.
It seems that Saagar is a good friend of Vance's, so he's basically just scrambling to cover his friend's ass.
 
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I'm not saying Mitch is planning anything.
He's a parrot and a troll.

But since he just acts as a puke funnel, you can see what the actual orchestrated pitch is based on what he's parroting.
Just wait. When Canada becomes the 51st state, Mitch will be appointed governor by Trump.
 

mandrill

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My comment has nothing to do with Trump.

The often repeated Hitler-Munich appeasement analogy does not apply to a situation where enormous amounts of blood was sacrificed to prevent a takeover of the Ukraine.
The U.S. and European support helped prevent that takeover.
Why wouldn't it apply, Earp?

Finns, Latvians and Swedes seem pretty fucking convinced it applies. Guess they're not as smart as you then?
 
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Seeing as he is not in a cult and/or have tDS like our MAGA crowd, from what I've seen, he is fully capable of independent thought.
It's pretty obvious regardless of political perspective who is merely aping talking points and who has distinctive viewpoints.
 

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The chief one being a lot of their soldiers died fighting and they were having manpower issues.
That might be true, but I'm not sure that is certain. Nor is it certain Ukrainians will support further conscription. Both sides seem to have manpower issues.

Sounds like you and others want to roll the dice on furthering a war of attrition. It's a valid opinion.
 

Valcazar

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Sure didn't appeal to his subscribers...Read the comments under the video, he's getting roasted.
People have noticed that he's just trying to bail out his friend.

That said, it is pretty obvious that the Administration thinks that utilateralism (they aren't isolationists) does appeal to their fanbase.
They think they came off well here, portraying what they wanted to portray.
 
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