Donnie king will bring the US down. You are done my little cupcake.
Trump/Zelensky deal turns into Jerry Springer episode
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What kind of guarantees do you suppose Zelensky wants?
Something like Nato's article 5?
And what would happen if Russian or Ukrainians resume fighting after a ceasefire? It was clear as day during yesterday's conference Zelensky hates everything to do with Russia and so does a significant amount of Ukrainians.
WW3?
Trump calls them "raw earth minerals" So that must be their true name.
How does that comment make any sense, Earp?
This entire thread, you've scrambled about saying the first thing that comes into your head to make Trump look good.
Zelensky is only asking for a simply worded agreement from Russia that troops will be withdrawn from Ukrainian territory, and that there will be no further military aggression. Should Russia violate this agreement there would be horrendous sanctions on Russia from the countries of the world.
If you're noting the collapse of Russia in 1917 during the World War, what happened to the Ukraine in the aftermath would seem completely relevant.
In 1919-1920, the Bolsheviks regrouped the Russian military and sent forces into the Ukraine to "liberate" the people. You can have the opinion that the Ukrainians won't stand for that now. But what if a new Russian regime is even more ruthless and unrestrained than Putin.
These are all just historical references. One can certainly have the opinion that the war should continue because there's a chance that Putin's Russia will collapse. It seems like a gamble.
- Russia is already the most sanction nation on earth
- Russians will NOT withdraw their troops especially from the territories they consider theirs: Crimea and Donbas
- Is USA and EU ready to escalate and go to war?
Putin attacked because he had not expected the magnitude
of support in terms of military and economic aid Ukraine was
going to recieve from NATO members. I for one found the amount
of taxpayers' money Trudeau has been happy to give away to
Ukraine shocking.
Putin has been keeping up with attacking Ukraine because it turns
out that Ukraine's supporters including NATO-Europe plus Canada
and the U.S. only intended to provide just sufficient support for the
war to drag on at the expense of Ukrainian lives not to defeat Russia.
Putin might have decided pressing on is the way to sow division among
NATO members as well as to destablizie Ukraine.
After 1917 revolution countries such as Ukraine, Belarus, Armenia, Azerbaijan, Georgia were formed, not liberated.
So you would have a hypothetical where Putin was replaced - not by another kleptocrat, which is by far the likeliest outcome - but by some kind of super nationalist populist who was able to motivate the Russian people to mass mobilize into a huge, efficient army and then somehow equip it with weapons from...... where exactly?
And that super populist then invades Ukraine in a far more efficient and successful way.
Okay. And sometime in 2027, a super intelligent monkey might start a monkey empire and take over the world. About as likely, right?
Yes, NATO's article 5 would be the perfect deterrent.
Zelensky hating everything to do with Russia, is 100% justified.
Can you expect any Ukrainian with an ounce of self esteem to feel anything remotely positive for Russia?
He also does not trust them at all. Again justified.
So yes, he'd want guarantees that Russia is never, ever able to repeat this again.
So stopping the war, is not possible without security guarantees.
Zelensky isn't just going to hand a "win" to Trump (and Putin), sign away his natural resources, agree to losing his land, and leave open the possibility that Russia could attack them in the future at any time.
Anyone who thinks this is "reasonable negotiation" or remotely a "deal" needs to be institutionalized for lack of critical thinking.
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Saagar is not a Trump fanboy. He isn't MAGA. He isn't even really a hardline conservative.
I personally find he adds a dose of practical conservatism on the Breaking Points podcast/YouTube channel. If you are not familiar, most of the time he sits across from a liberal commentator who is almost universally opposed to Trump.
trump has pissed of the world, its amazing that he's destroying every alliance so quickly.
Canadians are pissed and boycotting, Mexicans pissed. Denmark pissed, Panama.
The US is now siding only with Russia and Israel under trump.
The EU provided 60% of Ukraine's war effort, together with Ukraine they are the biggest military.
Canadians are pissed and boycotting, Mexicans pissed. Denmark pissed, Panama.
The US is now siding only with Russia and Israel under trump.
The EU provided 60% of Ukraine's war effort, together with Ukraine they are the biggest military.
Because Trump and Vance are pussies who only talk tough and regurgitate twitter talking points on social media or in front of the camera.
They don't know the first thing about being tough or being under pressure.
Zelensky on the other hand has learned this the hard way over the last 3 years.
They were not just defending Ukraine. But all of eastern Europe as if Putin had easily get Ukraine he would have pursue and conquer much easier countries all around.
But my dementia is clean. I do not support a lifetime fraud convicted felon and racist psychopath.You’re obviously suffering from dementia also little “soaked” cupcake
So, If I have already kicked you in the balls, does that mean I can not put one of my spiked galoshes up your ass?
