The Great Debate

[bver_hunter]

Springfield, Ohio faces 2nd day of bomb threats after Trump ‘eating pets’ rant

Springfield, Ohio faces 2nd day of bomb threats after Trump ‘eating pets’ rant - National | Globalnews.ca

Donald Trump pushed a narrative during the presidential debate with Kamala Harris, without any evidence, that Haitian immigrants are eating people's cats and dogs.

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[WyattEarp]

The explanation of why Harris had nothing to do with high inflation which was global and could go on for a long time the reasons. No President caused it and no President can bring down the huge increase of the past in prices in a free enterprise economy based on supply vs demand. Many food prices are determined by global pricing of commodities on the board of trade etc. The FED slowed the out of control hot COVID economy to tame inflation which is now close to the 2% target both in the US and most Western countries.

Further, the role of the VP is to support the role of the President, not make her own

Of course, she supports the great Biden boom economy with some of the lowest unemployment in history. This economy beats all other major economies in GDP growth except China (which has other major issues and is not used to only 8% growth) and Russia, which is fueled by war spending but is expected to drop in 2025. Most of Europe is in or near recession vs the US avoiding it seems even a soft landing with our strong economy even with high interest rates to slow our roaring Biden economy. It is not all due to him but certainly nothing to do with Trump whose policies would stimulate more inflation (including tax cuts for the wealthy and broad tariffs, which are like sales taxes to consumers)

The major Biden spending has been in investments for clean energy, tech manufacturing in the US vs China and so many other good investments for the future and during the COVID payments to avoid poverty and needy folks who could not work. Vs. Trump mess of just tossing out checks to anyone and delayed one big one since he insisted on having his name on it.

You can not provide a comprehensive factual answer in a 1-minute limit in the debate stating facts, not the constant string of lies from Trump and his madness, childish name calling for anyone against him and his goal of creating chaos so he can be the strongman dictators he wants to duplicate such as Putin and his love of N Korea, Oberon etc. And, of course, he is following the path of Hitler closely in his con-man misinformation for the sake of power regardless of facts.

It's disingenuous to tout the Biden economy and then say well inflation, he has no impact on that. Expanded govt. spending always powers an economy and creates a feeling of wealth. Inflation is many times the symptom of such expanded spending and a recession is the hangover.

We can argue here all day about the economy and inflation. People with real estate and stock portfolios are hedged against high inflation. However, Americans with lower wages and limited assets aren't doing as well.

I don't care for perpetual arguments about the economy because I find people like to cherry pick the data to make their point. It's however fair game for politicians. Kamala can say the economy is great. Trump can say it's not. The voters then decide based on their personal experiences.

 

[Knuckle Ball]

Germany trolls and fact checks Trump after debate:

TikTok - Make Your Day

 

[WyattEarp]

Are you sure about that considering the Bushs went to war in Afghanistan and Iraq? I ask you again, are you sure about your statement?

hint, don't mix up airstrikes with casualties or which Prez killed more terrorists!

Make a point.

I just clarified your statement about relative Afghan military deaths under Trump by providing more data. I'm not blaming Obama. I believe Obama was convinced by military advisors to escalate the Afghan war during his tenure in office. I like many Americans are happy that Obama gave the order to shoot to kill Bin Laden. As you know, Bin Laden wasn't in Afghanistan.

You have to help us understand the relevancy of the number of military deaths in Afghanistan under Trump.

 

[Leimonis]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1834608562305146930

I don’t get it. Hasn’t this been done to make fun of Trump and his supporters? And they are dumb enough to like it?

 

[squeezer]

Make a point.

I just clarified your statement about relative Afghan military deaths under Trump by providing more data. I'm not blaming Obama. I believe Obama was convinced by military advisors to escalate the Afghan war during his tenure in office. I like many Americans are happy that Obama gave the order to shoot to kill Bin Laden. As you know, Bin Laden wasn't in Afghanistan.

You have to help us understand the relevancy of the number of military deaths in Afghanistan under Trump.

Here you go, Wyatt. Read up and absorb the facts over fiction that Trump lays out. My original reply was to Ritchie who believes in nonsense but since you stepped in, here you go.

Trump claimed no U.S. troops died in Afghanistan for 18 months. Here's a fact check.

Government data shows while there was an 18-month period with no U.S. troop deaths in Afghanistan, Trump was not in office for all of this time.

www.cbsnews.com

ps...what data have you provided??

 

[WyattEarp]

Here you go, Wyatt. Read up and absorb the facts over fiction that Trump lays out. My original reply was to Ritchie who believes in nonsense but since you stepped in, here you go.

Trump claimed no U.S. troops died in Afghanistan for 18 months. Here's a fact check.

Government data shows while there was an 18-month period with no U.S. troop deaths in Afghanistan, Trump was not in office for all of this time.

www.cbsnews.com

ps...what data have you provided??

See this helps to put it into context. I literally tried to determine why you were mentioning military deaths in Afghanistan at that point.

As far as fact checks, probably not one of the strongest. It could be considered quibbling. I'm guessing Trump is taking credit for negotiating a cease fire of sorts in return for U.S. withdrawal.

 

[mandrill]

 

[mandrill]

I don’t get it. Hasn’t this been done to make fun of Trump and his supporters? And they are dumb enough to like it?

Mitch likes it. Draw your own conclusions.

 

[mandrill]

See this helps to put it into context. I literally tried to determine why you were mentioning military deaths in Afghanistan at that point.

As far as fact checks, probably not one if the strongest. It could be considered quibbling. I'm guessing Trump is taking credit for negotiating a cease fire of sorts in return for U.S. withdrawal.

Didn't Trump have the Taliban visit him at Camp David or some crazy shit like that?!

 

[WyattEarp]

Didn't Trump have the Taliban visit him at Camp David or some crazy shit like that?!

Yeah, he served them barbecued pork ribs.

 

[squeezer]

Didn't Trump have the Taliban visit him at Camp David or some crazy shit like that?!

Yes he did and he probably showed them the wonderful love letter given to him by the leader of North Korea.

 

[squeezer]

Yeah, he served them barbecued pork ribs.

Wrong again, it was steak!!!

 

[mandrill]

Yeah, he served them barbecued pork ribs.

Probably claimed it was Ohio catlets.

 

[Big Rig]

I think this is a heavily skewed and limited interpretation of what is happening with German energy.

The one thing I know of the Continental European governments is that they do not like criticism from the U.S. and will not be forthright about what is happening. Hey, they're politicians too. They're not holy men.

Good point Wyatt!

Such info should come from an independent source which the moderaters did not have

They should have been better prepared for such an important debate IMHO
like Earp was in the shootout at Tombstone LOL

 

[squeezer]

 

[Skoob]

Um, there was a pandemic during your cult leader's menacing run which kind of stopped most dictators in their tracks. Yet more American soldiers were killed in Afghanistan during the Trump administration than in the Biden admin. Hmmmm, interesting little tidbit eh Scoob?

You're kidding right?

Pandemic had nothing to do with it and happened in his last year in office.

The US pulled out of Afghanistan in 2021. Biden was in office 6 months when that happened and 13 soldiers were killed during the withdrawal alone. That's about how many were killed each year in Afghanistan during Trump's term.

Do you want a real interesting tidbit? Total US soldiers killed during Trump's term in Afghanistan was about 70. During Obama's last 4 years in office: 500+

Care to twist yourself into more a pretzel?

 

[Shaquille Oatmeal]

Fact is, no one invaded anyone while he was in power.

Everyone invaded everyone when the Dems took office.

That is possibly the most cop out explanation I have come across in some time leaving out all the inconvenient facts and the foreign policy positions Trump took during his time in office. Trump consistently put down NATO, and took the side of Putin. Obviously Putin did not have a reason to invade in that case, with someone like Trump doing his work for him.

 

[shack]

Yeah, he served them barbecued pork ribs.

Back or side.

 

[Frankfooter]

It's not about any plan...it's about hypocrisy.

You just can't wrap your brain around your own hypocrisy and distract to irrelevant details.
Give it up...your distraction proves your hypocrisy.

You're trolling again.
Let us know if you ever want to get on topic.