I don’t get it. Hasn’t this been done to make fun of Trump and his supporters? And they are dumb enough to like it?
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Here you go, Wyatt. Read up and absorb the facts over fiction that Trump lays out. My original reply was to Ritchie who believes in nonsense but since you stepped in, here you go.
Trump claimed no U.S. troops died in Afghanistan for 18 months. Here's a fact check.
Government data shows while there was an 18-month period with no U.S. troop deaths in Afghanistan, Trump was not in office for all of this time.
www.cbsnews.com
ps...what data have you provided??
See this helps to put it into context. I literally tried to determine why you were mentioning military deaths in Afghanistan at that point.Here you go, Wyatt. Read up and absorb the facts over fiction that Trump lays out. My original reply was to Ritchie who believes in nonsense but since you stepped in, here you go.
Trump claimed no U.S. troops died in Afghanistan for 18 months. Here's a fact check.
Government data shows while there was an 18-month period with no U.S. troop deaths in Afghanistan, Trump was not in office for all of this time.
ps...what data have you provided??
As far as fact checks, probably not one of the strongest. It could be considered quibbling. I'm guessing Trump is taking credit for negotiating a cease fire of sorts in return for U.S. withdrawal.
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Didn't Trump have the Taliban visit him at Camp David or some crazy shit like that?!
Yes he did and he probably showed them the wonderful love letter given to him by the leader of North Korea.
Good point Wyatt!
Such info should come from an independent source which the moderaters did not have
They should have been better prepared for such an important debate IMHO
like Earp was in the shootout at Tombstone LOL
You're kidding right?
Pandemic had nothing to do with it and happened in his last year in office.
The US pulled out of Afghanistan in 2021. Biden was in office 6 months when that happened and 13 soldiers were killed during the withdrawal alone. That's about how many were killed each year in Afghanistan during Trump's term.
Do you want a real interesting tidbit? Total US soldiers killed during Trump's term in Afghanistan was about 70. During Obama's last 4 years in office: 500+
Care to twist yourself into more a pretzel?
That is possibly the most cop out explanation I have come across in some time leaving out all the inconvenient facts and the foreign policy positions Trump took during his time in office. Trump consistently put down NATO, and took the side of Putin. Obviously Putin did not have a reason to invade in that case, with someone like Trump doing his work for him.
So tell me, do you believe Trump's claims that Haitians are eating pets and states are committing infanticide which just happens to be illegal everywhere?
Scoob, watch Bill and tell me how it makes your head pop.
@wyatt.earp there is an educational bit on tariffs I think will benefit you, my friend.
I've always like Al Franken and if you are in Springfield you better keep all of your ducks in a row
I'm glad Maher held Franken's feet to the fire on the Biden tariffs.
Their discussion did trigger my brain to focus on why the handwringing over Chinese tariffs is just that and not this big attack on the American consumer. Trump's proposing tariffs on one, single adversarial country. Historically, when tariffs have been discussed they are applied across the board on certain products regardless of origin. I have said something like this in more general terms. In the event more tariffs are applied to Chinese imports, Vietnam, India, Mexico and whoever can step in and provide these products more competitively.
As far as everything else Franken said, I think it's clear as smart as he is he's still playing hard for the Democratic team.
Maher: Let's not play team sports. Let's play truth.
PS- Kristen Soltis Anderson is so hot. She and other women like her might be one of the reasons I sometimes miss drowning myself in cable news bullshit.
Inflation is not the "economy" It can affect the economy but in they are two different things.
GDP is important because it gives information about the size of the economy and how an economy is performing. The growth rate of real GDP is often used as an indicator of the general health of the economy. In broad terms, an increase in real GDP is interpreted as a sign that the economy is doing well.
On a GDP basis and low unemployment the US has had a very strong, too hot economy which was due to huge demand vs restrained supplies coming out of COVID, global warming destroying crops with record heat, hurricanes, floods more servere
Trump spent more than Biden and just tossed most of it out (delayed checks to everyone since he insisted they have his signature instead of normal one (Secty of Traasury I think).
Biden spending was more targeted and largely investments in future growth (clean energy industry. chip manufacuring, infrastructure for bridges in bad need of repair) and many other future investments for the future.
Harris (who by the way is not Biden) as she as VP follows the policy of her boss (Pres). ALthough Biden was great for the economy.
Now turning to yes the mlllions of folks that are being hit by high grocery prices and other inflation factors that are global not just US, (none of which Biden or any global leader controls):
Most of Trumps proposals would skyrocket inflation (Tariffs, tax cuts mostly for his wealthy class, mass deportation reducing needed labor etc etc).
Harris has been very specific with detailed proposals to reduce costs some by tax credits (child care, earned income, down payment for new homebuyer) and tax deduction up to $50k for new small businesses etc.
She pays for this by more fair taxation with increased corp tax - but still below what it was pre-Trump and reversing the Trump tax cut for the wealthy for those making over $400k of income and some other sources.
High income individuals have the lowest top rates in US history and in most of the world (and Europe etc also have VAT taxes the consumer pays far higher than sales taxes). When I was a tax superviosor at then "Big 8" Touche Ross (Now Deloitte) it was great to have more than $50k of earned income since that was taxed at the "max tax" rate of 50% vs up to 70% on unearned income. Not to mention our silly estate laws making it easy to donate to heirs (like Trump) huge amounts not taxed so you never have to work for your money other than be a con-man whose only major property he ever made money on was the one he inherited from father Fred)
Six bankrupcies, huge judgments, and remember "I am so rich" that he doesn't need to fundraise but pays his own campaign cost? Yah he has scammed millions in fund raising, fake charity, fake university etc. And admires dictators, Hitler and autocrats.
Just not what se need in the US.
