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Who won the great debate?

  • Harris

    Votes: 77 78.6%

  • Trump

    Votes: 9 9.2%

  • Both were bad with no winner

    Votes: 10 10.2%

  • Both were good with no winner

    Votes: 2 2.0%
  • Total voters
    98
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richaceg said:
Lol...if you can't see how it was engineered for Ukraine to move away from peace with Russia as soon as Biden/Kamala was in command, encourages Zelensky to entertain the Idea of joining Nato who will then strategically put bases in close proximity to Russia...Pulling out of Afghanistan and start a new war in Ukraine...that's a bold but impressive move...I mean, leaving Trillions of equipment although outdated...just needs another war to showcase the new stuff...
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Wow, you are rewriting history with Ritchies version. You are really losing your mind in that hole eh?? Ukraine asked to join NATO as ANY COUNTRY has the right to do and US said NO because of Crimea being at odds and issues with Russia but hey, you make up your bullshit to fit your silly narrative .

Trump was pissed at Zelensky because Zelensky wouldn't help him cheat to win his election. Unlike Russia which released Clinton's emails to help your cult leader.

Dude, read a book man.

richaceg said:
So who put those forces in Afghanistan? not Trump. Trump didn't want to spend manpower and weaponry to anybody unless US gets something in return...Just admit it, Biden / Kamala were fucking up things...
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It was a Republican president called George Bush after the September 11 attack or was that fake too? Admit it, you know jack shit and Jack is still laughing at your posts.
 
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WyattEarp said:
And far more deaths under Obama than Bush and Trump combined.

So thanks for the tidbit. Not sure the point. I'm not even sure how Afghanistan flowed into the conversation.
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Are you sure about that considering the Bushs went to war in Afghanistan and Iraq? I ask you again, are you sure about your statement?

hint, don't mix up airstrikes with casualties or which Prez killed more terrorists!
 
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Dave in Phoenix said:
The explanation of why Harris had nothing to do with high inflation which was global and could go on for a long time the reasons. No President caused it and no President can bring down the huge increase of the past in prices in a free enterprise economy based on supply vs demand. Many food prices are determined by global pricing of commodities on the board of trade etc. The FED slowed the out of control hot COVID economy to tame inflation which is now close to the 2% target both in the US and most Western countries.

Further, the role of the VP is to support the role of the President, not make her own

Of course, she supports the great Biden boom economy with some of the lowest unemployment in history. This economy beats all other major economies in GDP growth except China (which has other major issues and is not used to only 8% growth) and Russia, which is fueled by war spending but is expected to drop in 2025. Most of Europe is in or near recession vs the US avoiding it seems even a soft landing with our strong economy even with high interest rates to slow our roaring Biden economy. It is not all due to him but certainly nothing to do with Trump whose policies would stimulate more inflation (including tax cuts for the wealthy and broad tariffs, which are like sales taxes to consumers)

The major Biden spending has been in investments for clean energy, tech manufacturing in the US vs China and so many other good investments for the future and during the COVID payments to avoid poverty and needy folks who could not work. Vs. Trump mess of just tossing out checks to anyone and delayed one big one since he insisted on having his name on it.

You can not provide a comprehensive factual answer in a 1-minute limit in the debate stating facts, not the constant string of lies from Trump and his madness, childish name calling for anyone against him and his goal of creating chaos so he can be the strongman dictators he wants to duplicate such as Putin and his love of N Korea, Oberon etc. And, of course, he is following the path of Hitler closely in his con-man misinformation for the sake of power regardless of facts.
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It's disingenuous to tout the Biden economy and then say well inflation, he has no impact on that. Expanded govt. spending always powers an economy and creates a feeling of wealth. Inflation is many times the symptom of such expanded spending and a recession is the hangover.

We can argue here all day about the economy and inflation. People with real estate and stock portfolios are hedged against high inflation. However, Americans with lower wages and limited assets aren't doing as well.

I don't care for perpetual arguments about the economy because I find people like to cherry pick the data to make their point. It's however fair game for politicians. Kamala can say the economy is great. Trump can say it's not. The voters then decide based on their personal experiences.
 
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squeezer said:
Are you sure about that considering the Bushs went to war in Afghanistan and Iraq? I ask you again, are you sure about your statement?

hint, don't mix up airstrikes with casualties or which Prez killed more terrorists!
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Make a point.

I just clarified your statement about relative Afghan military deaths under Trump by providing more data. I'm not blaming Obama. I believe Obama was convinced by military advisors to escalate the Afghan war during his tenure in office. I like many Americans are happy that Obama gave the order to shoot to kill Bin Laden. As you know, Bin Laden wasn't in Afghanistan.

You have to help us understand the relevancy of the number of military deaths in Afghanistan under Trump.
 
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