The Great Debate

[richaceg]

Its amazing how blind people are to the things they won't let themselves see.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1270850829994639360

doesn't prove anything franky...he's got better from black community than any other GOP candidate as of late...
i can tell you who's racist...

Biden’s History of Getting Away With Racist Remarks

Joe Biden has a decades-long habit of making overtly racist remarks, taking discriminatory positions and cavorting with known racists—things that would get anyone to his political right tossed out of polite society. But being on the left must make it okay. Just a few days ago, while lamenting...

www.heritage.org

 

[Valcazar]

Is there anyone in politics that is less relevant than McConnell ?

Lots of people.
Until he actually croaks, he still wields some serious institutional power as leader of the Senate Republicans.

He is nowhere near as powerful as he once was, though.

 

[Valcazar]

Two Americas. One that stands for law & order, and the one that stands for feels.

That's pretty true.
The MAGA movement is all feels and irrational emotion and very much in favor of breaking laws.

 

[silentkisser]

Yet the left knows what "racist" and "Nazi" means....and define Trump as both...

Actually....we do. And Trump's actions and words make him a fit for both....

And, as for your bullshit graphic here from the mental midgets at Turning Point....I would imagine that this is a right-wing fever swamp dream of what happened...not actually what happened.

• If illegal immigration was an issue....why did the Trump/GOP kill a border bill that basically gave them EVERYTHING they wanted...
• If Harris and Biden declared war on American energy....why is domestic production up?
• Biden is slower, but he still seems to be smarter than Trump...saying he's in mental decline while Trump isn't is quite funny.
• US inflation has cooled significantly, but the reality here is that inflation started during Trump's administration (as well as MASSIVE unemployment). Biden/Harris have put in policies that have seen it disappear. Mr. Trump wants to impose tariffs, which would lead to more inflation...because he is an economic genius (in his mind)...

I mean, we can also ask some great questions about Trump....

• He's had about 8 years to develop an Obama Care alternative or improvement, yet right now he only has "concepts" for a new health care plan...
• He kept on talking about infrastructure week....yet never got anything done. Is it because he's incompetent or was lying about having a plan? Or both?

I mean, I could go on and on, but honestly, it bores me.

 

[Skoob]

True, but not the point. The point is that there were heaps of contact, including the email setting up the meeting in Trump tower where they state they're out to help. Don Jr was giddy accepted negative info about Hilary from the Russians. And at no time did the Trump campaign report these contacts, and once they were discovered, they all initially lied about them until emails and videos etc started to show up.
Mueller also was frustrated due to the use of encrypted technologies thus could not detect anything more than he concluded. Its in his report.

With the full power of the US intelligence resources Mueller could have found anything he wanted to but didn't...because he was chasing ghosts the Dems asked him to chase so they could get headlines.
No collusion.
Let it go.

 

[silentkisser]

doesn't prove anything franky...he's got better from black community than any other GOP candidate as of late...
i can tell you who's racist...

Biden’s History of Getting Away With Racist Remarks

Joe Biden has a decades-long habit of making overtly racist remarks, taking discriminatory positions and cavorting with known racists—things that would get anyone to his political right tossed out of polite society. But being on the left must make it okay. Just a few days ago, while lamenting...

www.heritage.org

Of course the right will say it never proves he's a racist. But, let's be real: actions speak louder than words. Biden has said horrible things, and this is not a pass for him, but they were acceptable to say back in the day. Times have changed. There was a time when you would hear the N word on sitcoms (go back and watch the Jefferson's for example). That doesn't fly today.

But, Trump continues to say racist things...embracing white supremacists rhetoric like the great replacement theory...

As for the support from the black community....NC Gubernatorial candidate Mark Robinson called himself a black nazi....And, members of Trump's team think that he is more relatable to the black community because he's a convicted felon and wants to sell shoes...And I'm not even going to go into the whole NABJ fiasco when he questioned Harris's race... like, wtf???

 

[Skoob]

Its amazing how blind people are to the things they won't let themselves see.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1270850829994639360

Just because someone is sued doesn't mean they're guilty.
If you believe that someone is guilty when they get sued, then you would also agree that the claimant is guilty because there was a counter suit.

In October 1973, the Civil Rights Division filed a lawsuit against Trump Management Company, Donald Trump and his father Fred Trump, alleging that African-Americans and Puerto Ricans were systematically excluded from apartments. The Trumps responded with a $100 million countersuit accusing the government of defamation.
https://www.politico.com/blogs/under-the-radar/2017/02/trump-fbi-files-discrimination-case-235067

 

[richaceg]

Of course the right will say it never proves he's a racist. But, let's be real: actions speak louder than words. Biden has said horrible things, and this is not a pass for him, but they were acceptable to say back in the day. Times have changed. There was a time when you would hear the N word on sitcoms (go back and watch the Jefferson's for example). That doesn't fly today.

But, Trump continues to say racist things...embracing white supremacists rhetoric like the great replacement theory...

As for the support from the black community....NC Gubernatorial candidate Mark Robinson called himself a black nazi....And, members of Trump's team think that he is more relatable to the black community because he's a convicted felon and wants to sell shoes...And I'm not even going to go into the whole NABJ fiasco when he questioned Harris's race... like, wtf???

YOu are exactly giving Biden the pass "it was ok back in the day"...guess what...a lot of things are ok back in the day but it's not ok if you're not a democrat...pathetic...

 

[Skoob]

Of course the right will say it never proves he's a racist. But, let's be real: actions speak louder than words. Biden has said horrible things, and this is not a pass for him, but they were acceptable to say back in the day. Times have changed. There was a time when you would hear the N word on sitcoms (go back and watch the Jefferson's for example). That doesn't fly today.

But, Trump continues to say racist things...embracing white supremacists rhetoric like the great replacement theory...

As for the support from the black community....NC Gubernatorial candidate Mark Robinson called himself a black nazi....And, members of Trump's team think that he is more relatable to the black community because he's a convicted felon and wants to sell shoes...And I'm not even going to go into the whole NABJ fiasco when he questioned Harris's race... like, wtf???

Leftist checklist for when they fear losing an election to a conservative:
- he's racist
- he's a Nazi
- he colludes with Russia
- he doesn't pay taxes
- he will ruin the country

Typical.

 

[dvous11]

For the Purists…there is only ONE true Kamala

 

[richaceg]

That's pretty true.
The MAGA movement is all feels and irrational emotion and very much in favor of breaking laws.

there are also democrat supporters who is all feels and irrational emotions...we just call them deranged and unstable when they break the laws...and we blame Trump why he gets shot...

 

[richaceg]

Leftist checklist for when they fear losing an election to a conservative:
- he's racist
- he's a Nazi
- he colludes with Russia
- he doesn't pay taxes
- he will ruin the country

Typical.

don't forget "threat to our democracy" and "weird"

 

[Skoob]

don't forget "threat to our democracy" and "weird"

Thank you...I knew I missed a few!

 

[silentkisser]

YOu are exactly giving Biden the pass "it was ok back in the day"...guess what...a lot of things are ok back in the day but it's not ok if you're not a democrat...pathetic...

Let me explain it to you, slowly. Actions speak louder than words. Did Biden refuse to rent homes to black people? Did Biden refuse to hire black people to work as accountants?

Did Biden say things that were find back in the day but offensive now? Sure. Does Trump say offensive things now about black people? Yep. According to multiple sources, he dropped the N-bomb many times while hosting the Apprentice. There is video of it, apparently, but the producers refuse to release it....

Is either man perfect? Fuck no. But one has a long history of racial animosity and continues to say hurtful things about minority communities, like spreading the lie that Hatiian immigrants are eating people's pets...

 

[silentkisser]

Leftist checklist for when they fear losing an election to a conservative:
- he's racist
- he's a Nazi
- he colludes with Russia
- he doesn't pay taxes
- he will ruin the country

Typical.

For Trump.....I think this list is mostly accurate. I don't think he colludes with Russia, but he does appear to be in their pocket. I mean, he took Putin's word over his own intelligence agencies...
As for the taxes....if he was able to defer or avoid taxes legally by exploiting legit loopholes, I don't care. It sucks, but that isn't against the law. But the shit he pulled is illegal, and if he was caught, he would have been punished, but the statue of limitations has passed on those transgressions.

For weird....well, I think making up lies about a minority community eating pets is pretty fucking weird. As is the right's obsession with people's genitals and sexual preferences...I'd also say its weird to lie about shit (like crowd sizes) that doesn't matter at all and is easily disproven.

 

[Skoob]

For Trump.....I think this list is mostly accurate. I don't think he colludes with Russia, but he does appear to be in their pocket. I mean, he took Putin's word over his own intelligence agencies...
As for the taxes....if he was able to defer or avoid taxes legally by exploiting legit loopholes, I don't care. It sucks, but that isn't against the law. But the shit he pulled is illegal, and if he was caught, he would have been punished, but the statue of limitations has passed on those transgressions.

For weird....well, I think making up lies about a minority community eating pets is pretty fucking weird. As is the right's obsession with people's genitals and sexual preferences...I'd also say its weird to lie about shit (like crowd sizes) that doesn't matter at all and is easily disproven.

You have applied the same list to Poilievre, Ford, etc. Am I right?

 

[Shaquille Oatmeal]

prove it.

Wow.

 

[Shaquille Oatmeal]

Leftist checklist for when they fear losing an election to a conservative:
- he's racist
- he's a Nazi
- he colludes with Russia
- he doesn't pay taxes
- he will ruin the country

Typical.

It is only a checklist if it isn't true. Unfortunately for conservatives, they are all true.

 

[richaceg]

[QUOTE="silentkisser, post: 8648157, member: 107765"

For weird....well, I think making up lies about a minority community eating pets is pretty fucking weird. As is the right's obsession with people's genitals and sexual preferences...I'd also say its weird to lie about shit (like crowd sizes) that doesn't matter at all and is easily disproven.
[/QUOTE]
just because CNN and MSM doesn't report them doesn't mean it's not facts...

 

[Skoob]

It is only a checklist if it isn't true. Unfortunately for conservatives, they are all true.

Thanks for confirming the fear mongering.