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The Great Debate

Who won the great debate?

  • Harris

    Votes: 77 78.6%
  • Trump

    Votes: 9 9.2%
  • Both were bad with no winner

    Votes: 10 10.2%
  • Both were good with no winner

    Votes: 2 2.0%

  • Total voters
    98

squeezer

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Trump wanted peace...no wars....Biden/Kamala wanted scorched earth...look what happened...Oh and Look at Gaza franky...Trumps fault?
Only an idiot would blame the Russian invasion or the actions of Hamas on Biden.

The difference is under Trump he would have handed Putin the keys to Kyiv and Bibi more of a green light to blow up Gaza faster and quicker.
 

Skoob

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Only an idiot would blame the Russian invasion or the actions of Hamas on Biden.

The difference is under Trump he would have handed Putin the keys to Kyiv and Bibi more of a green light to blow up Gaza faster and quicker.
woulda, coulda, shoulda....

Fact is, no one invaded anyone while he was in power.

Everyone invaded everyone when the Dems took office.

You should come to grips with that inconvenient truth rather than putting your hopes on conjecture.
 

squeezer

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woulda, coulda, shoulda....

Fact is, no one invaded anyone while he was in power.

Everyone invaded everyone when the Dems too office.

You should come to grips with that inconvenient truth rather than putting your hopes on conjecture.
Um, there was a pandemic during your cult leader's menacing run which kind of stopped most dictators in their tracks. Yet more American soldiers were killed in Afghanistan during the Trump administration than in the Biden admin. Hmmmm, interesting little tidbit eh Scoob?
 

richaceg

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Only an idiot would blame the Russian invasion or the actions of Hamas on Biden.

The difference is under Trump he would have handed Putin the keys to Kyiv and Bibi more of a green light to blow up Gaza faster and quicker.
Lol...if you can't see how it was engineered for Ukraine to move away from peace with Russia as soon as Biden/Kamala was in command, encourages Zelensky to entertain the Idea of joining Nato who will then strategically put bases in close proximity to Russia...Pulling out of Afghanistan and start a new war in Ukraine...that's a bold but impressive move...I mean, leaving Trillions of equipment although outdated...just needs another war to showcase the new stuff...
 

WyattEarp

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Yet more American soldiers were killed in Afghanistan during the Trump administration than in the Biden admin. Hmmmm, interesting little tidbit eh Scoob?
And far more deaths under Obama than Bush and Trump combined.

So thanks for the tidbit. Not sure the point. I'm not even sure how Afghanistan flowed into the conversation.
 

richaceg

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Um, there was a pandemic during your cult leader's menacing run which kind of stopped most dictators in their tracks. Yet more American soldiers were killed in Afghanistan during the Trump administration than in the Biden admin. Hmmmm, interesting little tidbit eh Scoob?
So who put those forces in Afghanistan? not Trump. Trump didn't want to spend manpower and weaponry to anybody unless US gets something in return...Just admit it, Biden / Kamala were fucking up things...
 

squeezer

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Lol...if you can't see how it was engineered for Ukraine to move away from peace with Russia as soon as Biden/Kamala was in command, encourages Zelensky to entertain the Idea of joining Nato who will then strategically put bases in close proximity to Russia...Pulling out of Afghanistan and start a new war in Ukraine...that's a bold but impressive move...I mean, leaving Trillions of equipment although outdated...just needs another war to showcase the new stuff...
Wow, you are rewriting history with Ritchies version. You are really losing your mind in that hole eh?? Ukraine asked to join NATO as ANY COUNTRY has the right to do and US said NO because of Crimea being at odds and issues with Russia but hey, you make up your bullshit to fit your silly narrative .

Trump was pissed at Zelensky because Zelensky wouldn't help him cheat to win his election. Unlike Russia which released Clinton's emails to help your cult leader.

Dude, read a book man.

So who put those forces in Afghanistan? not Trump. Trump didn't want to spend manpower and weaponry to anybody unless US gets something in return...Just admit it, Biden / Kamala were fucking up things...
It was a Republican president called George Bush after the September 11 attack or was that fake too? Admit it, you know jack shit and Jack is still laughing at your posts.
 

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squeezer

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And far more deaths under Obama than Bush and Trump combined.

So thanks for the tidbit. Not sure the point. I'm not even sure how Afghanistan flowed into the conversation.
Are you sure about that considering the Bushs went to war in Afghanistan and Iraq? I ask you again, are you sure about your statement?

hint, don't mix up airstrikes with casualties or which Prez killed more terrorists!
 

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