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The Great Debate

Who won the great debate?

  • Harris

    Votes: 71 78.9%
  • Trump

    Votes: 9 10.0%
  • Both were bad with no winner

    Votes: 8 8.9%
  • Both were good with no winner

    Votes: 2 2.2%

  • Total voters
    90

shack

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I actually think that if you wanted a more fair TERB reaction you would post this poll in The Lounge. The political forum has been hijacked by progressives who don't fairly represent the broader membership.
More loser talk. Discussing the debate and the poll is exactly why the political forum was created. The people who don't give a shit will stay in the general forum. The people that actually do care, come to the political forum.
 
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WyattEarp

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More loser talk. Discussing the debate and the poll is exactly why the political forum was created. The people who don't give a shit will stay in the general forum. The people that actually do care, come to the political forum.
That's the whole point. Those who come to the political forum get excited about this poll. They generally come to the political thread with a POV that they want to express on social media. Most voters only care a fraction of how much we care about this.

You seem to be bent out of shape that I would dare suggest posting it in The Lounge.

I'm not sure you followed the thread. I said several times Kamala won the debate. Why would I say that if I was trying to influence or improve the vote for Trump?

So more hyper-aggressive talk without much thought.
 
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WyattEarp

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Admitting that trump lost the debate means you are not blaming the moderators.
Where did you see me blaming the moderators?
 

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How did she get where she's at now? Did she herself win any primaries?

She's there because she caught a ride on Biden.

Nice rhetoric, but again we have to suspend knowledge of the last two months.
Your original post (OP) was; I didn't hear that tonight.

I gave you proof that Trump was fixated on Biden, but you've seemed to go off on a Trumpian tangent. Weird.
 

WyattEarp

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Your original post (OP) was; I didn't hear that tonight.

I gave you proof that Trump was fixated on Biden, but you've seemed to go off on a Trumpian tangent. Weird.
What am I missing? Cuz Kamala says so? That's proof.

Sitting Vice Presidents always have to find a way to navigate between the Administration and perhaps their own platform. Most of the media has been talking about this challenge.

What's weird about saying she can't run away from the previous 3.5 years? Do Canadians think it's "weird" to judge a new Party Leader based on their party's governance?

I think you have to demonstrate something more to make whatever point you think is there.
 

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What am I missing? Cuz Kamala says so? That's proof.

Sitting Vice Presidents always have to find a way to navigate between the Administration and perhaps their own platform. Most of the media has been talking about this challenge.

What's weird about saying she can't run away from the previous 3.5 years? Do Canadians think it's "weird" to judge a new Party Leader based on their party's governance?

I think you have to demonstrate something more to make whatever point you think is there.
The vice president has effectively no power, they are expected to vote as their president expects IF there is a vote breaking situation and wait for the HNIC to be unfit or die
Once they get the top job, they can go off in a different direction.
A sitting member of parliament who becomes party leader is probably a minister of some sort and they do have more impact. Even the backbenchers have a say and can always threaten a revolt.

Look at Vance, he was picked even though he was a never Trumper who thinks Trump could be an American Hitler. Harris called Biden a racist. VPs main job is to broaden the appeal or solidify the base of the president and to follow orders.

It is though a bit weird to run against the former leader. Truedooh makes a habit of doing that, running against Harper even after the later is no longer in parliament and yes I did think it was lame.
Yes parties tend to have themes but a VP is very much a non entity unless someone sods off. I am sure at some point you know this, but now refuse to believe because you have been grifted.
 

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JUST IN: Donald Trump calls for ABC News to get their license taken away after their abysmal debate moderation last night. Moderators David Muir and Linsey Davis are under fire for their continuous fact-checks of Trump without any for Harris. The moderators not only fact-checked Trump but they were also caught giving Harris "toss-ups" during the debate. Harris was able to spew lies, such as the "Fine People" hoax and the "Bl**dbath" hoax without any correction from the moderators.
Mitch, it sounds like you're saying that you support "cancel culture".
 

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It's very simple for some of us. Trump contained the Federal regulatory bodies. It has expanded again under Biden. If you're Canadian, you should look at the Ottawa government headcount during Trudeau's years.

Is it really a stretch to say Trump will also rollback large spending projects initiated by Biden?

By the way, why are Democrats so interested in getting cheap goods from China? If you were watching the debates, this was one of Trump's points. If the tariffs on China are so bad, why didn't the Biden Administration eliminate them? For the life of me, why do people insist on repeating rhetoric that at its core makes no sense.

Are tariffs the best solution? No. There is a lot of good stuff written on trade with China. The average person (and many politicians) won't follow the arguments. Wall Street believes it can still make money in China although that's changing. Wall Street has their hands in both parties' pockets.
Do you have a background in business with some university-level economics?

I am curious, is Trump correct when he tells his maga base that CHINA will be paying the US oooodles and oooooodles of tax money because of his imposed tariffs? Is this how tariffs work, the country the tariff is imposed on pays all the taxes to the country imposing the tariff.
 
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squeezer

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Fox offers 3 debate nights to Trump and Harris with Bret and Martha as moderators and Trump says no because he doesn't want those moderators, he wants Jesse and Laura, HAHAHAHA, what a fucking hypocrite.

Go to 4.20 to hear Trump throw FOX hosts under the bus.

WHOA: Fox host TURNS ON TRUMP after debate debacle
 
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