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Report: 93% of Polled Arab Residents of Jerusalem Prefer Israeli Rule to Palestinian Authority

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The way you ignore the fact that 45% of those living under Israeli rule say its apartheid?
And the way that HRW, B'tselem and the UN say Israel is apartheid?
There is no Apartheid in Israel, you are like a broken record: get familiar with some facts:

 

Frankfooter

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There is no Apartheid in Israel, you are like a broken record: get familiar with some facts:

Hey, you have a video!
Nice, I hadn't heard much about Sydney, looks like that festival is getting heavily boycotted because of Israeli support.

But I'll up your video and give you three serious reports from three of the most respected human rights organizations that are all sitting on the desk at the ICC.
And congrats for being #1 on the list.


 

basketcase

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Nice inner monologue, basketcase.
But it has nothing to do with my views or anything else posted here, its just your rather strange fears.
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So why have you spent post after post trying to claim that some settlers throwing rocks means random attacks on other Jews are self defense?
 

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The way you ignore the fact that 45% of those living under Israeli rule say its apartheid?
And the way that HRW, B'tselem and the UN say Israel is apartheid?
You mean the same people who don't want to be Israeli (no matter what you tell them they should do) and who support attacks on Jewish civilians inside Israel accuse Israel of having some similarities with Apartheid? Hell, Canada has some similarities with Apartheid. We don't give permanent residents the chance to vote, we publicly fund one religion's schools, and one province has all sorts of laws about what languages can be used in governance.


Doesn't change the fact that you keep demanding Israel unilaterally enact a One State peace against the will of the vast majority of Palestinians.
 

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So why have you spent post after post trying to claim that some settlers throwing rocks means random attacks on other Jews are self defense?
I have never argued such a thing, that's just yet another of your straw men.

You mean the same people who don't want to be Israeli (no matter what you tell them they should do) and who support attacks on Jewish civilians inside Israel accuse Israel of having some similarities with Apartheid? Hell, Canada has some similarities with Apartheid. We don't give permanent residents the chance to vote, we publicly fund one religion's schools, and one province has all sorts of laws about what languages can be used in governance.


Doesn't change the fact that you keep demanding Israel unilaterally enact a One State peace against the will of the vast majority of Palestinians.
I have no idea what you are rambling on about here, its even less coherent than your previous straw man post.
Canada is not apartheid.
Israel is apartheid.

I'm against apartheid, it should be ended. If it ends with a two state solution that would be fine, the only problem is that's now impossible because of all the illegal, war crime, settlements.
Since Israel has already enacted the one state, apartheid, solution it will default to a one state, non-apartheid state when apartheid is ended.

And you have tweets. What's your point?
I have reports from HRW, B'tselem the UN and others saying Israel is apartheid.
Those reports are now at the ICC.

So a state sponsored propaganda video is really just too little, too late.
 

basketcase

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I have never argued such a thing, that's just yet another of your straw men.
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Except you constantly have included it in this thread and a couple others going on right now.

Sorry but your constant refusal to listen to the desire of Palestinians, those in East Jerusalem, and Arab Israelis show that you are motivated by an obsessive hatred, not any interest in the welfare of Palestinians.

As the poll in the OP says, 93% of East Jerusalem Arabs, want Israel to remain in control of it, just like the vast majority of Israeli Arabs would rather stay Israeli citizens in a peace deal, how an overwhelming majority of Palestinians don't want a One State peace, and how Palestinian refugees and their descendants don't want to move to Israel. Thankfully your western elitism doesn't need you to care about what they want.
 

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Except you constantly have included it in this thread and a couple others going on right now.
No, and every time I have challenged you to prove this you just move on to different slander.
Your attempts to slander me are poor cover for your total inability to defend the apartheid policies you defend here.

 

basketcase

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No, and every time I have challenged you to prove this you just move on to different slander.
Your attempts to slander me are poor cover for your total inability to defend the apartheid policies you defend here.
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So why are you so adamantly arguing that settlers are military targets despite what all your rights groups say? Why have you repeatedly used the term 'self defense' to describe Gaza rockets that those same rights groups say are unjustifiable war crimes?

Again, self determination has 93% of East Jerusalem Arab residents wanting Israel to stay in control of East Jerusalem, has Israeli Arabs wanting to stay Israeli under a two-state peace, and has Palestinians overwhelmingly rejecting your western elitist One State peace.
 

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They're back to the same ethnic cleansing that started the protests in the summer now.
Of course you didn't read any details because this isn't like other cases. The building was illegally built in an area zoned for public services and will be replaced by a school for Palestinian children with disabilities and kindergartens. But if you want to describe much needed schools for Palestinian youth as ethnic cleansing....

I guess building schools instead of wasting money on corruption or making weapons is one reason why East Jerusalem Arabs want to stay under Israeli control.
 

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So why are you so adamantly arguing that settlers are military targets despite what all your rights groups say? Why have you repeatedly used the term 'self defense' to describe Gaza rockets that those same rights groups say are unjustifiable war crimes?

Again, self determination has 93% of East Jerusalem Arab residents wanting Israel to stay in control of East Jerusalem, has Israeli Arabs wanting to stay Israeli under a two-state peace, and has Palestinians overwhelmingly rejecting your western elitist One State peace.
What I've been doing is confirming the multiple ways you support apartheid.
1) you give the right to self defence only to settlers who you have said act as 'terrorists'
2) you refuse to accept that the people of Gaza also have a right to self defence from an illegal occupation and war crime blockade.
3) you also seem to be supporting Israel labelling Palestinian human rights groups like Defence for Children International as 'terrorists' for what the world assumes is their support of ICC investigations
4) same as you seem happy that Palestinians in Jerusalem don't want to give up their nationality cards to live as stateless refugees like millions of other Palestinians living under apartheid occupation.

Its all apartheid.
 

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Of course you didn't read any details because this isn't like other cases. The building was illegally built in an area zoned for public services
Yes, B'tselem and HRW have detailed how Israel uses the law to enforce apartheid by ethnically cleansing Palestinians through 'legal' means.
Another clear example of apartheid policies you're defending.

 

basketcase

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What I've been doing is confirming the multiple ways you support apartheid.
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I love how your try to change the topic to ridiculous claims when you get cornered on your completely immoral defense of attacks on civilians simply because of their religion.


Yes, B'tselem and HRW have detailed how Israel uses the law to enforce apartheid by ethnically cleansing Palestinians through 'legal' means.
Another clear example of apartheid policies you're defending.

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I love how you claim that building schools for Palestinian kindergartens and special needs Palestinian students is somehow ethnic cleansing.
 

Frankfooter

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I love how your try to change the topic to ridiculous claims when you get cornered on your completely immoral defense of attacks on civilians simply because of their religion.
Basketcase, this is malicious slander.
I do not support attacks on civilians.
Period.
Please cease with these false accusations.

I love how you claim that building schools for Palestinian kindergartens and special needs Palestinian students is somehow ethnic cleansing.
You're defending something HRW is calling a war crime.
Why would we believe you over HRW?

 

basketcase

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Basketcase, this is malicious slander.
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Slander of posting what you said. Sorry pal but you have spent the past week or two trying to claim that Jewish civilians in the West bank are really military targets.

And yes, despite your fear mongering, the family that was evicted last week was because their house was illegally built on land zoned for public services and is slated to be for Palestinian kindergarten classes and a school for Palestinian special needs kids. Once again you prove you don't care about the lives of Palestinian people as long as you can bash Israel. Israel building infrastructure for them is one of the reasons why 93% of Palestinians in East Jerusalem want Israel to stay in charge.

p.s. Seems you don't care about what Amnesty and HRW say about Jewish civilians.
 
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