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shack

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Maybe its because zionists used false flags to get as many Jews to immigrate to Palestine in the first place.
So you approve of immigrants coming to Canada but if Israel does it, it's a mortal crime.

Your hypocritical double standard is exposed once again.
 

shack

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Or whatever other conflict is currently going on. But I also know it's not our place to interfere in foreign conflicts.
Does that mean that all of the pro-Palestinian protestors are wrong because they are trying to interfere in a foreign conflict? Just asking.

Let's clear the occupation at UofT.
 

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Does that mean that all of the pro-Palestinian protestors are wrong because they are trying to interfere in a foreign conflict? Just asking.
You're asking, I'm answering. Nothing wrong with peaceful protests. That's freedom of speech.

Something wrong with strong arming elected representatives to support a foreign country.
 

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So you are not okay with it but also you are okay with it. Gotcha.
If you want to fight and die for Israel, you're welcome to. If you want to donate all your wealth to Israel, you're welcome to.

Same goes for any other foreign country. I don't.
 
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I know. How dare I quote the UN Ceasefire motion when you oppose a ceasefire.
Its Israel that is opposed to a ceasefire.

You know it and still do the hasbara troll thing of posting bullshit you and I both know is bullshit.
That's what makes you a shitty hasbara troll.

Every time you mention the UN, you get this.
Recognition that you have declared that Israel is committing genocide by your choice, the UN.
 

Frankfooter

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So you have no evidence to invalidate the fact that Israel bestows many rights upon Arab CITIZENS that Arab nations do not bestow upon Jews.

Without directly addressing this example and just answering with a question (which you've said you never do, what a joke AKA lie) you are admitting that Israel is not an apartheid state. That is why the UN has never passed a resolution declaring Israel as such, as they did with S. Africa in 1963. Would an apartheid state allow things like that Arab-Israeli boy did? Allowing a Jewish member of Hamas to swear on a Torah?

All of your BS claims fall like dominoes, one after the other when placed under scrutiny.
Shazi, there are reports detailing the legal framework of Israeli apartheid out by:
The UN
Amnesty
B'tselem
HRW

Those documents are at the ICC and ICJ.

Answering the incredibly stupid arguments of some Shazi is a waste of time.
Israel is apartheid and the legal arguments are in the courts and the UN.

That argument sailed long ago.
Israel is apartheid.
 

Frankfooter

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You answered your own question. All Palestinians are not citizens and every single sovereign state on the face of the earth has the absolute right to bestow or deny citizenship to whomever they want. End of story.
Israel chose to be apartheid and now must deal with the ramifications.
End of story.

Deal with it Shazi.
 

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Interestingly Geno, despite all your claims of Israeli genocide and intentionally killing/targeting children, you have no images of the soldier killing that boy. The soldier had him dead to rights. According to you, that soldier should be sent to jail for disobeying commands.

That goes 100% contrary to what you say is Israeli policy. More BS and lies from you PROVEN.
You mean you admit that Netanyahu's war hasn't killed every single Hamas militant after 9 months of dropping 2000 lb bombs on civilians?

What next Shazi, are you going to realize that killing people's families won't end the resistance but only fire up another generation?
 

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The difference is that Hamas could stop being terrorists and attacking Israeli citizens like they did on Oct.7. Another example of where actions have consequences.

I hope that Pali leadership stop always being terrorists.
Zionists have always been terrorists, Shazi.
Irgun were terrorists before there were Palestinian terrorists.
And today, Shazi, Israel drops 2000 lb bombs on refugees in tents, tortures children, rapes prisoners to death with hot metal rods and is starving 1 million children to death.

Zionists have become the terrorists, Shazi.
From settler terrorist attacks to the IDF.



 
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shack

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You're asking, I'm answering. Nothing wrong with peaceful protests. That's freedom of speech.
Don't move the goalposts. You said that there is no need to interfere in other countries' conflicts (or something to that effect). Protesting, peaceful or not, would qualify as interfering to effect change.
 

shack

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If you want to donate all your wealth to Israel, you're welcome to.
So you have no objection to AIPAC or any other pro-Israel lobby. Cool.
 

shack

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Shazi, there are reports detailing the legal framework of Israeli apartheid out by:
The UN
Amnesty
B'tselem
HRW
Allegations but no resolutions. S. Africa was apartheid and the UN issued resolutions. History shows that this is how the UN deals with apartheid states.

Come back once the UN passes a resolution against Israel for being apartheid. Until then you are talking shit and spreading hate speech. Protect your identity.
 

shack

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You mean you admit that Netanyahu's war hasn't killed every single Hamas militant after 9 months of dropping 2000 lb bombs on civilians?
No, Geno. I mean that you say it's Israeli policy to commit genocide and kill Pali children.

Why is there no video/images of that soldier killing that boy to prove your claim. It would have happened within the following 2 or 3 seconds. Your claims are BS and thus hate speech, a federal crime.

Why were you so upset when somebody asked where you were born?
 

shack

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Zionists have always been terrorists, Shazi.
You've admitted that you support the Oct.7 Hamas terrorist attack, Geno. And by Zionists, you mean Jews, as proven by Douglas Murray. You will attack the messenger but have yet to refute his arguments, just like his debate opponents couldn't. You can't outdebate facts.

The Arabs should have accepted the land deal of 1948. They were stupid to choose war/violence/terrorism instead. They have been eternal refugees since and will still be, going forward.
 

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Allegations but no resolutions. S. Africa was apartheid and the UN issued resolutions. History shows that this is how the UN deals with apartheid states.

Come back once the UN passes a resolution against Israel for being apartheid. Until then you are talking shit and spreading hate speech. Protect your identity.
Shazi, is that the best you've got?

There are UNGA resolutions, UNSC resolutions, ICJ provisional measures, multiple reports but you've decided none of those count and you'll only accept a UN resolution saying Israel is apartheid? And when the UNGA passes one you'll declare only the UNSC resolutions count.

Your moving goal posts are hilarious.
Israel is apartheid and committing genocide.
You know it.

 

Frankfooter

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You've not admitted that you support the Oct.7 Hamas terrorist attack, Geno. And by Zionists, you mean zionists, as proven by Douglas Murray. You will attack the messenger but have yet to refute his arguments, just like his debate opponents couldn't. You can't outdebate facts.

The Brits should have accepted the land deal of 1939. They were stupid to choose war/violence/terrorism instead. They have been eternal refugees since and will still be, going forward.
Corrected your post for accuracy, you still get my views wrong here every day.

Shazi, you keep posting as you think the genocide is a winning strategy for Israel.
Why?

 

Klatuu

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You've admitted that you support the Oct.7 Hamas terrorist attack, Geno. And by Zionists, you mean Jews, as proven by Douglas Murray. You will attack the messenger but have yet to refute his arguments, just like his debate opponents couldn't. You can't outdebate facts.

The Arabs should have accepted the land deal of 1948. They were stupid to choose war/violence/terrorism instead. They have been eternal refugees since and will still be, going forward.
Racist Ziontologist mythologies taught from birth. Locked in a racist prison by your own community.
 
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