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shack said:
Good work. Geno is a bigger liar than I thought. I knew that The Lancet didn't conduct the study but now you say that they didn't even report on it. How scummy can one get?
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To be fair, I don't think he questions his twitter sources much and actually believed what he posted was actually from the Lancet. Unless he is saying stuff trying to defend his error, I have him on ignore and hope to resist the urge to show blocked content.

As to if he is a liar, it comes down to if he retracts or if he doubled down. I have a feeling he will double down.

At least an anti vaccer I knew who when I pointed out an error of fact in a natural news article just moved the goalposts and went on a different and wrong tangent instead of defending being lied to.
 
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shack said:
That claim is a big lie from start to finish.

The Lancet DOES NOT believe that in the slightest. As I'd assumed, you've been lying all along about the Lancet.

The Lancet, itself, conducted no such study. The Lancet is also not making any claim at all as to how many are presumed dead. They are simply reporting that a study was done (by a Lebanese radio host and a cardiologist neither of which qualifies them as experts). It is the same as reporting that a political poll was taken and these are the results of the poll.

The Lancet is not in the least vouching for the findings of this study. Just reporting that this study was conducted.

As well, the study does not say that Israel killed those people. The study is simply estimating (using lots of significant assumptions and accepting Hamas' numbers at face value, which is a joke) how many have been killed but are attributing no blame or how the deaths occurred.
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Shazi, the Lancet says 186,000 are likely dead now and its more likely to be higher.
WFP says another 500,000 are near death from starvation.

This is everything you've asked for from Israel.

You've been told, you've seen the reports, you've seen the videos, you've seen the evidence.
In each case you cheered the deaths on.

zionists are like nazis

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1796824747411440089
 
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shack said:
The Lancet used no numbers at all because they did not conduct the study. They simply reported that a study was done and they are not vouching for the results. The only numbers used in the study were from Hamas claims and taken at face value (by obviously biased authors). As you yourself claimed (as did the authors) that under the conditions it is extremely difficult to provide accurate numbers.

Since The Lancet did not conduct the study and voiced no opinion on it, your attempt to defend the study by mentioning The Lancet's reputation is irrelevant.
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The Lancet doesn't publish bullshit, Shazi.
They publish works they think are trustworthy.

You are a zionist with nazi like ambitions of genocide.
There is zero reason to trust or care about what you think.

zionists are like nazis
186,000 dead
500,000 near death from starvation

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1810087594610274504
 
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Frankfooter said:
AIPAC represents a small number of dual citizen billionaires.
Not Americans, not American Jews.
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Are you saying that American Jews aren't allowed to lobby their government?

AIPAC represents their members. J-street represents their members. JVP, SJP, CAIR, all lobby on behalf of their members as well. It's not a Jewish conspiracy like you desperately try to portray but simply how lobbying works.

And I'd be willing to bet that the vast majority of American Jews believe Israel should continue to exist (the definition of zionism). There will be different opinions on what that means but that's irrelevant to you because you've decided that Jews are scum unless they demand an end to the Jewish presence in the region and praise Hamas.
 
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shack said:
How sad YOU are Geno. You posted a letter to the editor and claimed that it was a study conducted by the Lancet. As I keep saying and you keep proving me right, not a single thing you post can be trusted, but this one makes me want to puke.

I'll decline any further commentary on my part because it would get me banned.
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Shazi, you are lying again.
The Lancet posts legit articles.

Here's the details on one of the authors, Martin McKee.

MM is a member of the editorial board of the Israel Journal of Health Policy Research and of the International Advisory Committee of the Israel National Institute for Health Policy Research. MM was co-chair of the Institute's 2016 6th International Jerusalem Conference on Health Policy, but writes in a personal capacity. He also collaborates with researchers in Israel, Palestine, and Lebanon.

You're attacking an Israeli research, Shazi.
 
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basketcase said:
Are you saying that American Jews aren't allowed to lobby their government?
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Dual citizen billionaires should have no more influence on the government than any single voter, basketcase.
Its not about his religion, its about him lobbying for genocide being committed by a foreign government.
The same would be true of someone paying off rump on behalf of Putin.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1805563451281993774
 
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