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Frankfooter said:
You mean you admit that Netanyahu's war hasn't killed every single Hamas militant after 9 months of dropping 2000 lb bombs on civilians?
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No, Geno. I mean that you say it's Israeli policy to commit genocide and kill Pali children.

Why is there no video/images of that soldier killing that boy to prove your claim. It would have happened within the following 2 or 3 seconds. Your claims are BS and thus hate speech, a federal crime.

Why were you so upset when somebody asked where you were born?
 
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Frankfooter said:
Zionists have always been terrorists, Shazi.
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You've admitted that you support the Oct.7 Hamas terrorist attack, Geno. And by Zionists, you mean Jews, as proven by Douglas Murray. You will attack the messenger but have yet to refute his arguments, just like his debate opponents couldn't. You can't outdebate facts.

The Arabs should have accepted the land deal of 1948. They were stupid to choose war/violence/terrorism instead. They have been eternal refugees since and will still be, going forward.
 
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Allegations but no resolutions. S. Africa was apartheid and the UN issued resolutions. History shows that this is how the UN deals with apartheid states.

Come back once the UN passes a resolution against Israel for being apartheid. Until then you are talking shit and spreading hate speech. Protect your identity.
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Shazi, is that the best you've got?

There are UNGA resolutions, UNSC resolutions, ICJ provisional measures, multiple reports but you've decided none of those count and you'll only accept a UN resolution saying Israel is apartheid? And when the UNGA passes one you'll declare only the UNSC resolutions count.

Your moving goal posts are hilarious.
Israel is apartheid and committing genocide.
You know it.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1802689456085795177
 
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You've not admitted that you support the Oct.7 Hamas terrorist attack, Geno. And by Zionists, you mean zionists, as proven by Douglas Murray. You will attack the messenger but have yet to refute his arguments, just like his debate opponents couldn't. You can't outdebate facts.

The Brits should have accepted the land deal of 1939. They were stupid to choose war/violence/terrorism instead. They have been eternal refugees since and will still be, going forward.
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Corrected your post for accuracy, you still get my views wrong here every day.

Shazi, you keep posting as you think the genocide is a winning strategy for Israel.
Why?

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1802350654783926432
 
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You've admitted that you support the Oct.7 Hamas terrorist attack, Geno. And by Zionists, you mean Jews, as proven by Douglas Murray. You will attack the messenger but have yet to refute his arguments, just like his debate opponents couldn't. You can't outdebate facts.

The Arabs should have accepted the land deal of 1948. They were stupid to choose war/violence/terrorism instead. They have been eternal refugees since and will still be, going forward.
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Racist Ziontologist mythologies taught from birth. Locked in a racist prison by your own community.
 
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Shazi, is that the best you've got?

There are UNGA resolutions, UNSC resolutions, ICJ provisional measures, multiple reports but you've decided none of those count and you'll only accept a UN resolution saying Israel is apartheid? And when the UNGA passes one you'll declare only the UNSC resolutions count.

Your moving goal posts are hilarious.
Israel is apartheid and committing genocide.
You know it.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1802689456085795177
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Actually, moving goal posts and deflecting is your MO. I prefer comparing apples to apples which is what I am doing here.

This is how the UN deals with apartheid nations. It is documented history.

United Nations General Assembly Resolution 1761 - Wikipedia

United Nations General Assembly Resolution 1761 was passed on 6 November 1962 in response to the racist policies of apartheid established by the South African Government

No such resolution has been passed by the UN in regards to Israel. Their resolutions are a documented declaration of their official policy. The UN is the international body that speaks for the vast majority of the world's nations, and you have implored to follow the lead of the UN. No resolution means 100% that the UN does not believe that Israel is practising apartheid. An arm of the UN is not the body of the UN.

Geno says: "There are UNGA resolutions, UNSC resolutions, ICJ provisional measures, multiple reports but you've decided none of those count and you'll only accept a UN resolution saying Israel is apartheid?"

Whatever resolutions you are referring to (most of which are simply arms of the UN, but not the actual body of the UN) are not saying that Israel is guilty of apartheid. If so, step up to the plate and show them to us. Show us, bigtalker. Otherwise you are moving the goalposts and being disingenuous. You are incapable of backing up your claims/lies.

So it is totally valid for me to require a UN resolution regarding Israeli apartheid mirroring what they did in 1962 regarding S. African apartheid. Apples to apples. Stop trying to move the goalposts.
 
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Frankfooter said:
Its policy, the evidence has already been submitted to the ICC and ICJ.
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All I hear are crickets from the ICC and ICJ regarding this phantom policy.

Awaiting your worthless predictions.
 
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Actually, moving goal posts and deflecting is your MO. I prefer comparing apples to apples which is what I am doing here.

This is how the UN deals with apartheid nations. It is documented history.

United Nations General Assembly Resolution 1761 - Wikipedia

United Nations General Assembly Resolution 1761 was passed on 6 November 1962 in response to the racist policies of apartheid established by the South African Government

No such resolution has been passed by the UN in regards to Israel. Their resolutions are a documented declaration of their official policy. The UN is the international body that speaks for the vast majority of the world's nations, and you have implored to follow the lead of the UN. No resolution means 100% that the UN does not believe that Israel is practising apartheid. An arm of the UN is not the body of the UN.

Geno says: "There are UNGA resolutions, UNSC resolutions, ICJ provisional measures, multiple reports but you've decided none of those count and you'll only accept a UN resolution saying Israel is apartheid?"

Whatever resolutions you are referring to (most of which are simply arms of the UN, but not the actual body of the UN) are not saying that Israel is guilty of apartheid. If so, step up to the plate and show them to us. Show us, bigtalker. Otherwise you are moving the goalposts and being disingenuous. You are incapable of backing up your claims/lies.

So it is totally valid for me to require a UN resolution regarding Israeli apartheid mirroring what they did in 1962 regarding S. African apartheid. Apples to apples. Stop trying to move the goalposts.
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Amateurish
 
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Actually, moving goal posts and deflecting is your MO. I prefer comparing apples to apples which is what I am doing here.

This is how the UN deals with apartheid nations. It is documented history.

United Nations General Assembly Resolution 1761 - Wikipedia

United Nations General Assembly Resolution 1761 was passed on 6 November 1962 in response to the racist policies of apartheid established by the South African Government

No such resolution has been passed by the UN in regards to Israel. Their resolutions are a documented declaration of their official policy. The UN is the international body that speaks for the vast majority of the world's nations, and you have implored to follow the lead of the UN. No resolution means 100% that the UN does not believe that Israel is practising apartheid. An arm of the UN is not the body of the UN.

Geno says: "There are UNGA resolutions, UNSC resolutions, ICJ provisional measures, multiple reports but you've decided none of those count and you'll only accept a UN resolution saying Israel is apartheid?"

Whatever resolutions you are referring to (most of which are simply arms of the UN, but not the actual body of the UN) are not saying that Israel is guilty of apartheid. If so, step up to the plate and show them to us. Show us, bigtalker. Otherwise you are moving the goalposts and being disingenuous. You are incapable of backing up your claims/lies.

So it is totally valid for me to require a UN resolution regarding Israeli apartheid mirroring what they did in 1962 regarding S. African apartheid. Apples to apples. Stop trying to move the goalposts.
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Oh, you're looking more for something like UN Resolution 3379.

United Nations General Assembly Resolution 3379, adopted on 10 November 1975, "Determines that Zionism is a form of racism and racial discrimination" with 72 votes in favour, 35 votes against, and 32 abstentions

The US had it revoked 33 years ago, but its already been done.

What you're riding on is the Negroponte discipline, where the US has a policy of vetoing resolutions on Israel.
So you'll keep riding this ridiculous goal post move to this one safe area for as long as Biden or rump are in power.

We've already seen the US veto UN resolutions for Israel, we know that they will veto resolutions about apartheid and genocide which is why those issues are going to the ICC and ICJ, where the US can only threaten judges and withdrawing support.

You enjoy this little square you've got left.
The rest of the world sees zionism as a colonial movement pushing apartheid, illegal occupation and now genocide.
Shazi, you're member of a select crew now, a member of those humans who push for genocide.

You are living through Germany in the summer of 1945 and bragging about how well the war is going for Germany.
 
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Frankfooter said:
Oh, you're looking more for something like UN Resolution 3379.

United Nations General Assembly Resolution 3379, adopted on 10 November 1975, "Determines that Zionism is a form of racism and racial discrimination" with 72 votes in favour, 35 votes against, and 32 abstentions
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No, I'm waiting for something like resolution #1761 which condemns S. African apartheid. Your claims of Israeli apartheid remain without a UN resolution.

Another fail for you.
 
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Frankfooter said:
What, is the threatening of judges working for you?
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No, Geno, your lack of a UN resolution to back up your apartheid claims is amusing to me.
 
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shack said:
So you have no objection to AIPAC or any other pro-Israel lobby. Cool.
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You're a funny guy! Give Israel your own money, and stop stealing the wealth of others.
 
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shack said:
Don't move the goalposts. You said that there is no need to interfere in other countries' conflicts (or something to that effect). Protesting, peaceful or not, would qualify as interfering to effect change.
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And what will those protests accomplish? Nothing. They will effect no change in policy.

You're on a tear today. What happened? Realized it was Canada day in Canada, not Israel day in Canada?
 
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No, I'm waiting for something like resolution #1761 which condemns S. African apartheid. Your claims of Israeli apartheid remain without a UN resolution.

Another fail for you.
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You keep holding on to that tiny bit of turf, Shazi, its all you've got left now.
Without that bit, you'd have to admit that you're just a racial supremacist backing genocide, wouldn't you?

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1719268592569761893
 
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