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Israel at war

Robert Mugabe

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Not wishing to be negative but wasn't somebody asleep at the wheel? How could this happen if their border defense was in place? Hundreds of hostages means Israel is fucked on that point.
 

Valcazar

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Israel is a classic example of the failure of proportional representation, since 2003 Israel has had more elections than Italy. During that time Orthodox extremists and militant Zionists have increased their power base. The Knesset has 130 seats, 11 parties now sit within. Five hard right parties have aligned with Netanyahu into a solid political block. Bibi doesn't have to worry about contesting another election until early 2027. What happened in Italy has happened in Israel...do you want that for Canada?
Oh lord, this old canard about PR again.

Sounds more like you resent it working?

Granted the Auzzies are gnats on the world stage same as Canada, so we don’t hear too much about them. They seem happy.
Not allowed to use all the other examples of PR in the world.
It's just "PR brought us Hitler" and "PR is why Israel is unstable".
(As if proportional representation is one thing only done in one way.)
 
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Valcazar

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Here another scrap of history, the Wiemar Republic of Germany adopted Proportional Representation. From 1924 until 1932, Germany had five elections with the National Socialists and the Marxists increasing their power base and paralyzing the country politically.
And there's the Hitler one, right like clockwork.
 

y2kmark

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More violence won't help.
There were attacks by Israel in 2015, 2018 and 2021 on Gaza and more before then and none created peace.

You can't kill the entire democratically elected Hamas government and police force.
Even if Israel did kill the tens of thousands in Hamas there are still 2 million people living in Gaza who wouldn't just bow their heads and live under an apartheid blockade.

If you want peace Israel needs to deescalate for a change, not kill more people.
End the occupation or end apartheid.
For Israel, this is the equivalent of the Tet offensive. Iranians are apparently students of history...
 
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mandrill

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Hamas supporters in the West Bank celebrated what happened in Israel earlier today. Draw your attention to the weapons they’re carrying. Those are American weapons—M4s. Just what happened to the billions of dollars in arms Joe Biden left behind in the failed withdrawal of Afghanistan?
Last I checked Dubya invaded Ghan and Trump made the dumb peace deal that promised to withdraw US troops. Don't know where Biden comes into that equation.

Besides, there are probably a million M-4's floating around. They'd be almost as common as AK's.
 

Leimonis

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Mitchy, Ukraine is desperate for weapons to defend itself. Why tf would it sell weapons to a Mid East terrorist organization?
And why would Russia miss an opportunity to make that shit up and distribute it through their degenerate ultra right friends?
 
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Frankfooter

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''If the Palestinians lay down their weapons, there will be peace. If the Israelis lay down their weapons, there will be a massacre.'' Golda Meir.
Not true.

What would happen is Israel would keep stealing Palestinian land through 'settlements' and institute more apartheid.
Israel shoots protesters, is against international organizations and against peaceful means of resistance.

All that has happened over the last 30 years is more settlements and less Palestine, more death and more apartheid.
 

Frankfooter

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Why do you support the deaths of these children and refugees?

That's fucking sick.
You support the apartheid occupation of Palestine.
That's the cause of this violence.
Not the indigenous population resisting an illegal occupation.

Its time for decolonization.
 
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Frankfooter

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"From the river to the sea, Palestine will be free". Hmmm, I wonder what river they are referencing.
The only country that exists there is the one state, apartheid Israel.
Israel right now is from river to the sea, but you don't see it a problem that there is no Palestine? Only apartheid Israel?
 
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