Israel at war
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You are really messed up. The pretzel twisting your mind follows to justify your position is just hard to follow.
Its so much easier to say there are laws, just hold everybody to the laws.
How do you morally justify killing so many civilians and now depriving them of food, water and power?
The situation in Gaza gets more dire every day.
I dunno. Ask Hamas about the 1400 they killed in Israel.
As for depriving them of food, water and power, ask them about the hostages.
Anyway. The IDF spokesman CNN is interviewing every 5 minutes is so full of shit I don't know how he keeps a straight face. When asked about the hostages yesterday he spoke as if they were the priority and they would make sure they were all returned home as quickly as possible. And we will all eat ice cream and have a good laugh once they are back I suppose.
Also. Frankly, no pun intended, although revenge was justified, the shit Israel is doing right now isn't really justifiable. Any hope of resolve is now gone forever on both sides. Occupying Gaza once again is a mistake as Joe Biden pointed out. Who will be in charge if Israel manages to catch and kill every Hamas member including the new recruits just coming into puberty? Palestinian civilians are paying the price for this criminal mismanagement on both sides.
Weren't we meant to have established a United Nations Assembly to kind of prevent this shit from ever happening? This is way out of control and beyond any kind of salvation.
Also. Frankly, no pun intended, although revenge was justified, the shit Israel is doing right now isn't really justifiable. Any hope of resolve is now gone forever on both sides. Occupying Gaza once again is a mistake as Joe Biden pointed out. Who will be in charge if Israel manages to catch and kill every Hamas member including the new recruits just coming into puberty? Palestinian civilians are paying the price for this criminal mismanagement on both sides.
Weren't we meant to have established a United Nations Assembly to kind of prevent this shit from ever happening? This is way out of control and beyond any kind of salvation.
Then you would have to ask Israel about the 200 Palestinians killed before this and the thousands killed in recent years.You'd have to ask about 2014, 2021, the Great March of Return in 2018, apartheid, the occupation and the blockade.
Which is what should happen, but it should happen at the Hague.
Charge the leaders of Hamas and Israel.
Bring in the blue hats and end apartheid.
UNRWA says Gaza staff ‘no longer able to provide humanitarian assistance’
The chief of the UN Relief and Works Agency for Palestine Refugees in the Near East (UNRWA) has issued a stark warning on the organisation’s ability to continue to deliver assistance to the hundreds of thousands of people in need in Gaza.
Here's a photo of the UNRWA warehouse that stored food for refugees in Gaza, 75% of Gaza are refugees.
Ah yes, of course, it's the Matrix at work run by the Elite having planned all this out and just waiting for it to happen.
With all the suffering & war in the world, why do you care so much about this particular fight overseas?
Ah yes, of course, it's the Matrix at work run by the Elite having planned all this out and just waiting for it to happen.
Sometimes you have to wonder why...there are palestinians living in Israel among the Jews....but Gaza is "clean of Jews"...
mkatif.org
The depletion of the Jewish community in Gaza was caused by economic concerns. In 1927 the Jewish community in Gaza numbered 50 men. They lived within the Arab environment and remained on a friendly relationship with their Arab neighbors. After two years, everything changed. In August 1929, during the Arab riots in Hevron, the Arabs in Gaza similarly tried to harm the Jews in Gaza, and massacre them as had been done to the Hevron Jews. The Jews gathered in a city hotel. With the help of the a-Shawa family which belonged to the aristocracy of Gaza Arabs, the British managed to protect them from the Arab mob besieging the hotel and get them out in the middle of the night by train to Lod, and from there to Tel Aviv.
The story of the Jewish community in Gaza during the 1929 Arab riots was pushed out of the national memory. It does not appear in documents, except for noting the fact that “The Jewish community in Gaza ceased to exist after the 1929 Arab riots”. In the full report of the British Commission of Inquiry (the Shaw Commission) which investigated the 1929 Arab riots at the end of that year, they did not even mention the events in Gaza, and not one Jew from Gaza was invited to testify before the commission.
The Arab riots destroyed the Jewish community in Gaza. All attempts to renew the Jewish community in the city in the following years failed. Gaza became a city ‘clean’ of Jews.
The Jewish communities in Gaza throughout the years | Gush Katif Heritage Center
מרכז מורשת גוש קטיף הינו גוף ממלכתי כדי לספר את סיפור ההתיישבות בגוש קטיף ובצפון השומרון. כנסו לעמוד The Jewish communities in Gaza throughout the years
mkatif.org
The story of the Jewish community in Gaza during the 1929 Arab riots was pushed out of the national memory. It does not appear in documents, except for noting the fact that “The Jewish community in Gaza ceased to exist after the 1929 Arab riots”. In the full report of the British Commission of Inquiry (the Shaw Commission) which investigated the 1929 Arab riots at the end of that year, they did not even mention the events in Gaza, and not one Jew from Gaza was invited to testify before the commission.
The Arab riots destroyed the Jewish community in Gaza. All attempts to renew the Jewish community in the city in the following years failed. Gaza became a city ‘clean’ of Jews.
You should go back further.Sometimes you have to wonder why...there are palestinians living in Israel among the Jews....but Gaza is "clean of Jews"...
The depletion of the Jewish community in Gaza was caused by economic concerns. In 1927 the Jewish community in Gaza numbered 50 men. They lived within the Arab environment and remained on a friendly relationship with their Arab neighbors. After two years, everything changed. In August 1929, during the Arab riots in Hevron, the Arabs in Gaza similarly tried to harm the Jews in Gaza, and massacre them as had been done to the Hevron Jews. The Jews gathered in a city hotel. With the help of the a-Shawa family which belonged to the aristocracy of Gaza Arabs, the British managed to protect them from the Arab mob besieging the hotel and get them out in the middle of the night by train to Lod, and from there to Tel Aviv.The Jewish communities in Gaza throughout the years | Gush Katif Heritage Center
מרכז מורשת גוש קטיף הינו גוף ממלכתי כדי לספר את סיפור ההתיישבות בגוש קטיף ובצפון השומרון. כנסו לעמוד The Jewish communities in Gaza throughout the years
The story of the Jewish community in Gaza during the 1929 Arab riots was pushed out of the national memory. It does not appear in documents, except for noting the fact that “The Jewish community in Gaza ceased to exist after the 1929 Arab riots”. In the full report of the British Commission of Inquiry (the Shaw Commission) which investigated the 1929 Arab riots at the end of that year, they did not even mention the events in Gaza, and not one Jew from Gaza was invited to testify before the commission.
The Arab riots destroyed the Jewish community in Gaza. All attempts to renew the Jewish community in the city in the following years failed. Gaza became a city ‘clean’ of Jews.
Prior to 1947 and the zionist movement the mandate of Palestine was a pretty multicultural place, as were most of the countries around them. Beirut was the Paris of the middle east, Iraq had a vibrant Jewish community as did a lot of other Arabic countries.
The zionist movement has been the problem. Not the Jewish people and not Palestinians, but zionism. Its a stupidly 19th century racist colonial movement that has not made Jews or anyone else safer or happier. Stupid ethno states.
go back further to when?
1000s?BC?
Sigh.
Why don't we just stick to talking about a way to end the cycles of violence without genocide?
You done arguing and let's focus on solutions? I can do that...
Remove Hamas...
Your only solution is to escalate the cycle of violence into genocide.
Can you even watch these videos?
Who would you propose Israel negiotiate with? It's not like Israeli PMs haven't tried this path already and those PMs didn't have a massacre of this magnitude to look past to forge any kind of lasting peace, which feels millions of miles away at this point.
Because killing every Hamas member means invading Gaza which will mean way more deaths, likely on both sides.
'Removing' is just another word for killing, isn't it?
Right now Israel is killing a child every 15 minutes. You want more of that?
Palestinians.
Negotiate with Palestinians.
Israeli PM's have had massacres this big before, though they've now killed more than they did during 2014, 2018 and 2021.
But you may have a point, Israel won't negotiate with Palestinians and if they do it would likely be a repeat of Oslo, which only lead to half a million more settlers in Palestine.
Instead its time for the international community to force Israel to end apartheid through sanctions.
End apartheid, the occupation and the blockade.
This is the path to end the violence.
So you think if Hamas says Israeli settlers are terrorists they are justified in killing them?
Take your logic to its conclusion.
That's why I back the rule of law, not labelling someone 'terrorist' to justify killing them.
