"It's OK to cheer" "it's not Ok to cheer". Make up your mind.
Not sure where you're going with this as my only post in this thread was to another member to join the IDF. Before you decided to reply (to a post not directed at you).
Israel at war
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I don't support Hamas. Hamas, like Israel, has been targeting civilians.
But its morally and legally wrong to claim that Hamas and Palestinians don't have the right to self defence under an illegal occupation, apartheid rule and illegal 17 year long blockade.
Take the leaders of both Hamas and Israel to the Hague and put them on trial.
Then end apartheid and end the cycle of violence.
That's the way forward.
You think its offensive to use the same definition of terrorism for Israelis and Palestinians?
You're calling out someone from saying "can't wait"... you should also condemn people dancing after the deaths of Jews...did you?
That was not a precision attack, that was levelling an entire neighbourhood in one of the densest cities in the middle east.
If you're so sure of the your moral position you should join a call for both sides to be investigated for war crimes/terrorism.
This, to you, looks like a precision attack on a military target?
That whole block could be occupied by Hamas... When are they releasing hostages btw?That was not a precision attack, that was levelling an entire neighbourhood in one of the densest cities in the middle east.
If you're so sure of the your moral position you should join a call for both sides to be investigated for war crimes/terrorism.
This, to you, looks like a precision attack on a military target?
No, but the state of Israel is.
And to be clear... again... he didn't say Israelis, he said Israel. Do I need to explain the difference again?
Why are you even in our discussion...I'm replying to his posts below...
You think its offensive to use the same definition of terrorism for Israelis and Palestinians?
let's go further than 1946...
I'll keep that in mind when you stick your nose in where it doesn't belong.
This definition of terrorism applies to everyone, if anyone or any government or any army uses violence and intimidation against civilians its terrorism. Palestinians, including Hamas, Israelis, including the government, army and settlers and everyone in the world.
We are now beyond discussions of apartheid and terrorism.
We are now calling out genocide.
A Textbook Case of Genocide
Israel has been explicit about what it’s carrying out in Gaza. Why isn’t the world listening?
jewishcurrents.org
Not one G7 leader states Hamas attack was justified....even Trudeau...why is that? do they have intel that Hamas are terrorists? Why are they pleading Israel to tone down the retaliation but none are condemning Israel...they must have different intel report than what you get franky....This definition of terrorism applies to everyone, if anyone or any government or any army uses violence and intimidation against civilians its terrorism. Palestinians, including Hamas, Israelis, including the government, army and settlers and everyone in the world.
We are now beyond discussions of apartheid and terrorism.
We are now calling out genocide.
A Textbook Case of Genocide
Israel has been explicit about what it’s carrying out in Gaza. Why isn’t the world listening?
It's been pretty numbing to me to see Israel viciously attacked, over 1400 dead and counting, yet all I have seen in the 9 days following this unprecedented massacre has been some of the worst anti-semitism of my lifetime.
I suspect this is a waste of my time because you're hopeless biased, but you do know Rabin and Barak offered them nearly 1967 level territory with East Jerusalem coming back to the Arabs as well. Remind me, what did Arafat say? I'll use an anti-Israel source for this one too - The Guardian https://www.theguardian.com/world/2002/may/23/israel3
So please give us all a fucking break with your screams of apartheid, like you're the parrot of Roger Waters. These schmucks choose death, destruction and martyredom because making a real peace with Jews is a bridge too far for them.
Here's the article, took 15 sec of googling.
Israelis blame gov’t for Hamas massacre, say Netanyahu must resign - poll
An overwhelming majority of 86% of respondents, including 79% of coalition supporters, said the surprise attack from Gaza is a failure of the country's leadership.
www.jpost.com
Here's a soldier saying civilian Palestinians are targets.
Here's a video of the IDF calling Palestinians 'human animals'.
