Israel at war

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I wouldn't care if it was 1000 , the fact is Hamas started it and on this planet, HAMAS (terrorists) are the aggressors and brought death and mayhem to their people.

You and Franky can gang up and jump up and down but none of us are in control but HAMAS was and Israel is so deal with it.
The occupation of Palestine is 75 years old, way before Hamas. There has been Palestinian resistance to the occupation since then, first the PLO then PA then Hamas. If you kill all of Hamas there will be another resistance born from the orphans of this war.

You can't kill the 6 million Palestinians who live under Israeli rule, nor can you use apartheid and violence to rule them forever.

The only way to end the violence is to give Palestinians full human rights including the vote, all of them. All of them in Gaza and the West Bank.
 

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Looks like universities are fed up with these protests.
Columbia University suspends 2 student groups (msn.com)
Good luck with that. The president of Israel sent a letter to US universities demanding they stop protests for Palestine.
A couple of universities answered. For now.
You can't stop global protests against your genocide, darts.




 
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Remember how we told you what “globalize the intifada” meant? Now NYC is starting to experience it. Hamas supporters in NYC have surrounded Grand Central Station and are attempting to breach the outer doors to reach police officers sheltering inside...because “Palestine.” Hopefully the public has realized by now that the Palestinian cause isn’t about protecting or even helping Palestinians rather it is about hating Jews, supporting terrorism, and wreaking havoc against the West. Israel’s battle against Hamas is truly the battle for civilisation.
 
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Uh….that’s not what the word “conflate” means.
You still haven't answered the question so let me rephrase it since you're the English police.

Why are you exaggerating the 1700 death claim?

The only way to end the violence is to give Palestinians full human rights including the vote, all of them. All of them in Gaza and the West Bank.
Only an individual who wants to end Israel's existence would propose this


Western pressure forced Israel to stop in 2008, 2011, 2014, 2018 and 2021.
It will force Israel to stop soon now too.

Then the world has to force Israel to change.
Sure once Hamas is destroyed
 
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Only an individual who wants to end Israel's existence would propose this
You realize that this is an admission that you think Israel can only exist as an apartheid state that uses violence to keep the indigenous people in submission.

I think better of Palestinians and Jews, they can get past this if Netanyahu and his fascist government are removed and the law applied equally to all war criminals.
 

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What? I asked if you watched the video and if you can answer my question based on that and based on what Bibi himself says in the video.

I will link it here again. Be honest after watching the video.


I will put a few excerpts from the video here if you are too lazy to watch it:

Woman: "But wait a minute, the whole world will say "What are you occupiers"?
Netanyahu: "The world will say nothing. The world will say we are defending ourselves"

Woman: "Aren't you afraid of the world, Bibi?"
Netanyahu: "No. Especially now, with America, I know what America is. America is a thing that can be easily moved. Moved in the right direction. They will not bother us. Let's suppose they will say something to us. So what? So they say it. 80% of the Americans support us. Its absurd! We have great support there!. And we say, what shall we do with this support? Look, the other administration (that of Clinton) was pro-Palestinian in an extreme way. I was not afraid to maneuver there. I did not fear confrontation with Clinton".


So tell me again, do you think the US can force Bibi to act responsibly, when he even refused to not expand settlements, even after the US pressured him to?
This is why America asked for a humanitarian pause and Bibi complied. Everyone talks tough when they believe they are alone and not being recorded. I've mentioned it before I'm not a fan of BIBI but I do not blame him for going into Gaza after Hamas to weed them out and completely destroy them.
 

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You realize that this is an admission that you think Israel can only exist as an apartheid state that uses violence to keep the indigenous people in submission.

I think better of Palestinians and Jews, they can get past this if Netanyahu and his fascist government are removed and the law applied equally to all war criminals.
No, it is not, it's a realization that they cannot have peace with a terrorist organization leading Gaza.
 

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No, it is not, it's a realization that they cannot have peace with a terrorist organization leading Gaza.
Its an admission that you don't think Israel can exist without apartheid.
Your posts clearly state that you view Jewish lives more valuable than Palestinian lives.
That is a clear statement of racism.

There is no other conclusion.
Your views are racist.
 
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