You think the lives of 245 Jews are more important than 1.1 million Palestinians.
That's very clear.
You can't get more overtly racist than that.
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That's very clear.
You can't get more overtly racist than that.
This wins extra prizes for:
1) being a 75 year long occupation
2) 5 attacks on Gaza in the last decade
3) apartheid
4) illegal occupation
5) illegal blockade
6) illegal settlements
7) 62 UN resolutions against Israel that they refuse to abide by
Sort of like, 'well, Israel ruined their lives so they are now worthless 'human animals'.
Not if your business is genocide.
If only you knew Israel as well as I do.
'One more racist law': reactions as Israel axes Arabic as official language
‘Nation state’ law gives Jews exclusive rights over Arabs who make up fifth of Israel’s populationwww.theguardian.com
1.i am an israeli, a proud zionist. Zionism means that Jews have a connection to this land that all archeological findings from 2000 yrs ago prove the presence of jews. Just took a long time to create a country. Jews are in fact the indigenous to the land.
2. When you say 75 years occupation- you lost me. As I indicated above, if you dont believe in the right of israel to exist than the heck with you. If Israel is a sovereign state than by definition it occupies nothing but its own land.
3. In Israel there is no apartheid. Check the youtube link i included of the muslim girl talking about apartheid. Gaza was self ruled so no apartheid there. There is, i acknowledge, an issue with the west bank. The west bank is a land which was conquered by Israel and is a disputed land. Currently you have bunch of areas (A, C) where Palestinian authority is controlling with its own security apparatus.
4. Not sure how you came up to 233 settler killings of 250 Palestinians. Unlike you, the blind, I will say that you will find nut jobs in every country (incl in the Israeli gov...but not for long). As Israel has a strong judicial system, if somebody illegally or inappropriately kills somebody else- they stand trial, they find consequences. Some of those nut jobs sometimes create illegal posts on some hills- the courts remove them regularly.
As you can see- i responded to each one of your points. Unlike you and many others who always divert the conversation I addressed each point.
I will add one point- in its history Israel demonstrated willingness to give up conquered land (which was won in war and it had by virtue "the right of conquest") to establish peace. It gave up 1/3 of its size to Egypt. It gave up land for a peace with Jordan. It retreated from Lebanon to demonstrate it had no territorial "colonial" aspirations, and it retreated from gush katif. It signed deals with UAE, Sudan etc. Was about to sign with Saudi. Now tell me something sherlock, can you tell me what the Palestinians did to achieve peace? mmmmm
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There is a very sad story of one of Israel's leading entrepreneurs who employed many Gazans in his tech company. His daughter was murdered during Oct 7 Nova Party. Great thinking by your boys there!
You would be surprised that most high tech executives believe in peace and have collaborations even in the west bank. One of my friends invests in companies that have R&D in both territories.
GO AHEAD and boycott- put those families back into the poverty line. Genius
Go crazy. Sometimes you guys are so dumb. Soda Stream was targeted by BDS, guess what? it employed something like 200 "Palestinians"- ie fed 200 families, which makes it with 2 circle of economic benefit for- 2000-5000. So yeah- go ahead.
There is a very sad story of one of Israel's leading entrepreneurs who employed many Gazans in his tech company. His daughter was murdered during Oct 7 Nova Party. Great thinking by your boys there!
You would be surprised that most high tech executives believe in peace and have collaborations even in the west bank. One of my friends invests in companies that have R&D in both territories.
GO AHEAD and boycott- put those families back into the poverty line. Genius
it is almost too easy to refute you.
1. You said that Auschwitz killed 1.5 MM jews in 5 years. Go study History. Most of the death were in the last 1.5 years. Re: how many kids died in Gaza- unlike your boy Hitler Israel warned Gazans to GET OUT, GO SOUTH, initially used something called knock on roof which is a small explosion to convince people to leave the building prior to bombing it. Can you tell me when Canada, US, Russia or ANYOTHER country ever sent a warning to somebody prior to bombing? Ill wait
- The Beirut explosion was like a small nuclear bomb in force, took the Lebanese 1 month to count <300 dead. Only your Nazi Palestinians count thousands in mere minutes. Maybe they should start another business! lol
2. 5 attacks on Gaza in last decade- unless your memory fails you- Hamas and Islamic Jihad did not shoot one missile into Israel. They ALWAYS make sure that they shoot from open areas, never in any proximity to schools or Mosques, never close to hospitals and they always shoot at only Israeli military targets. They NEVER shoot into civilian cities. Hamas and Islamic Jihad are the BEST! they cannt wait to do orgies with 72 well appointed virgins! do you think any of the girls on this site will do for them?
3. Israel did not occupy 1 cm of Gaza on Oct 6
4. Illegal blockage- did you send your objection to A Sisi? last i checked the guy put tanks on his side of the border to stop your Nazi friends.
Tell me, why the arab countries are signing deals with Israel to normalize relations but NOBODY wants the "Palestinians"? go see what they did to Jordan in the 60's and what they did to Lebanon in the 70's. Lebanon is a dead country bc of them.
stop watching tik tok. 40% of Israel population are people who were expelled from arab countries such as Iran, Iraq, Morocco, Egypt, Libya, Tunisia etc. They had their own nakba but they chose not to be victims for 500 years. fyi they are all dark.
and ooops forgot me some ethopian jews, they are more black than you. More black than Gazans. So your white lie just got debunked.
Bullshit. Israeli Arabs have a lot in common with Canada's indigenous people.
Unlike Palestinian leadership, both Canada's indigenous people and Arab Israelis are part of the country despite systemic racism and want their right improved and in the case of our indigenous, want treaties honoured in the way they were intended.
The Palestinian leadership on the other hand (especially Hamas and PIJ) still push the idea that Jews don't belong, regardless of whether they have long standing Ottoman/Arab roots or are recent immigrants. That rejectionism and endorsement of violence by many Palestinian leaders makes this conflict massively different than Canada's indigenous people.
And yes, anyone who think's Israel and the Jewish presence in Israel is illegitimate because they say it's colonial while living in an indisputable colonial entity is Canada is a massive hypocrite.
It's not. It should be but those negotiations would require the Palestinian leadership to accept Israel's existence.
this is a note to the readers- i dont need to post twitter or tik tok or whatever bullshit somebody says.
If somebody like this racist Frank says 75 years of occupation- he means that Israel has no right to exist. Bc by definition as a sovereign country with 25% Arab population and 20% Muslim it is not occupying anything but its land. Is Israel perfect? no...show me one country that is BUT ask any Israeli arab whether they are wiling to live in future Palestine and I'll show you somebody who would prefer to convert to Judaism before they join the long list of backwards arab 3rd world countries.
There is an argument here that maybe lives are not equal- the first principle in Israel is that life is #1. It exchanged 1 soldier for 1000 prisoners! (including Sinuwar). Israel morns each death like it belongs to the whole country.
It developed the most sophisticated set of interceptors to protect its citizens.
The Palestinians- hey- i didnt invent the whole 72 virgins. I actually think that we should all rally behind Frankie so he promotes this site among his Hamas boys. Maybe if they get a taste of some of the women here they would prefer banging in this world vs the next! but they themselves admit that they prefer their own human casualties bc it pictures better. I didnt invent it- its in their own interviews!
so lets rally behind Frankie- forget them 72 faglies
If somebody like this racist Frank says 75 years of occupation- he means that Israel has no right to exist. Bc by definition as a sovereign country with 25% Arab population and 20% Muslim it is not occupying anything but its land. Is Israel perfect? no...show me one country that is BUT ask any Israeli arab whether they are wiling to live in future Palestine and I'll show you somebody who would prefer to convert to Judaism before they join the long list of backwards arab 3rd world countries.
There is an argument here that maybe lives are not equal- the first principle in Israel is that life is #1. It exchanged 1 soldier for 1000 prisoners! (including Sinuwar). Israel morns each death like it belongs to the whole country.
It developed the most sophisticated set of interceptors to protect its citizens.
The Palestinians- hey- i didnt invent the whole 72 virgins. I actually think that we should all rally behind Frankie so he promotes this site among his Hamas boys. Maybe if they get a taste of some of the women here they would prefer banging in this world vs the next! but they themselves admit that they prefer their own human casualties bc it pictures better. I didnt invent it- its in their own interviews!
so lets rally behind Frankie- forget them 72 faglies
90 years later people like you are still pushing anti-semitism and support targeting Canadian Jews because of your racist conspiracy theories.
Only different is in the 30's, the anti-semites showed their faces instead of hiding behind bullshit excuses about human rights on an anonymous board.
Agreed totally on this.
You're completely wrong about apartheid though. Go look at your sources because they describe a set of laws based on race. Israeli Arabs face systemic discrimination but they have the same legal rights as every other Israeli. The 'discrimination' is that Palestinians who don't want to be Israeli don't have the same rights as Israelis. Last I checked, Palestinians and Arab Israelis are the same race/ethnicity so the difference is clearly not about race. To add, Arabs in East Jerusalem and the Golan have open offers of Israeli citizenship. If you think they should be forced to be Israelis then go take a look at that whole self-determination things.
The only apartheid in the region is the PA laws that refuse to allow Jews to travel or own land in the territories they control even though Israeli Arabs are allowed free access.
p.s. You keep posting your buddy's videos despite refusing to address the editorial process. How many Israelis did he have to interview before finding people expressing the ideas he wants to hear?
thank you for the detailed response.
- Many of the arab countries define their countries by their religion too. Israel has the right to do the same. As I described above, my dads side can trace 400 years back (meaning likely longer but we dont have the fam tree). Most of the modern "Palestinians" migrated to Israel from mid 19th century once the land became prosperous. Israel was a land of sand or swamps. It was not a good place to live.
- You said something that is correct- from a pragmatic stand point there is a reality of 10mm Israelis and 4-5mm Palestinians. If Israel was smart it would define a state for them and be the first to recognize it. 67 borders is not pragmatic. If you do the most western line, it is merely 16 km from the sea. That is not practical. So some land exchange is likely required. Israel does have its own fanatics which the majority dont agree with. The political system in Israel is a prob and hopefully it would change at one point. Whether the Palestinians will want to govern themselves is a different prob. They need to stop being victims and think how to achieve a state without a war. That would be a good day.
- How in Israel there is apartheid is beyond me. supreme court judge, soccer players on national team, judges, doctors (lots of doctors) , members of parliament. So I respectfully disagree
It's practical if the peace deal actually ensured that groups like Hamas gave up their arms and accepted the deal as an end to all claims. Ow wait, that will never happen.
Agreed that religious mumbo-jumbo is not the basis for a land claim but...
At the time of the Ottoman collapse, there were around a million Jews between their lands and former lands in North Africa. Currently half of Israeli Jews are of Arab descent. From the principles used at the time of the peace treaty, each of the former Ottoman ethnicities were given land (except the Kurds) so under international law as it was at the time, the creation of a small Jewish state would make sense and it would make sense to put it where there was the most density. This became even more justified as most Arab/North African states used Israel as an excuse to ramp up anti-semitism including stripping Jews of citizenship despite being able to trace their families back for millennia and chasing them out.
And that 5000 years stuff is responsible for a continual Jewish presence in the region except for periods when they were expelled. Do you think the Jewish quarter of Old Jerusalem was a coincidence? And as we discussed before, the Old City had a significant Jewish population even before zionism was a thing.
