Israel at war

Conil

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whats Balestine? go ask your friends in Gaza what they are and they will say: Balestinians. Arabs dont pronounce P. How on earth can you have a name of a country if you cannt even pronounce it? fun fact shocker- the naming of the land as Palestine was done by the Romans with ZERO connection to the current population that is using the same name.
Its true, too funny !!
 

dannydan2022

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Your article comes from the right wing National Post.
What were you saying about it not being right/left?

Note that they say the same thing.

Seventy-one per cent believe a ceasefire should be called for
who cares what people think about a ceasefire (which would only benefit Hamas). Israel dropped 1.5MM as in million leaflets, sent hundreds of thousands of text msgs telling people to get the heck out of the north. Why? bc when somebody comes into your sovereign state, massacres 1200 of your people and kidnaps 239, than they have to deal with the consequences. Abu Marzul keeps bragging that they are in the tunnels and the responsibility for the population is on the UN. For anybody who is calling for a ceasefire. Can i ask something? why is there no world demand that this sick Hamas releases the hostages? what do they need a 10 months old? or an 85 year old lady?
 

dannydan2022

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Antisemitism has lost its potency today on account of pro-Israel supporters, and most importantly the state of Israel, weaponizing both antisemitism and the holocaust, to conflate any legitimate criticism of Israel with antisemitism while actually engaging in racist oppression of the Palestinians and Islamophobia. It was effective initially as the world was too close to WW 2, but today? It is mostly a tired rhetoric. Jews are safe in the west. The bigger issues are related to systemic racism.
I guess you forgot the Pittsburg shul killing, the shooting at schools in Montreal, killing in California- there is a LONG list. Jews feel under attack. Nobody should minimize it. While Im against any anti Islam in general (anti radical islam is legit) to compare acts against Muslims who are 25% of the world population to attacks against jews who are 0.2% is a joke. Just like our prime minister
 

dannydan2022

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Now if they could only go the next step and insist Israel adopt Canadian values and support complete equality for all is citizens and not engage in apartheid and ethnic cleansing.

I guess you are so ignorant that you need some education: in Israel ALL signs are in Hebrew AND Arabic. Arabic is an official language. The supreme court has an arab muslim judge, doctors, lawyers, nurses, tech. Last gov had a member of Government who represents the Arabs, just like plenty of MP's who are arabs and muslims. Is Israel a perfect country? heck no. You want to compare to Canada? during Covid demonstrations against Gov policies resulted in Trudeau making martial law, freezing funds and stopping free speech. In Israel? for 37 weeks straight! (as in EVERY SINGLE week), hundreds of thousands went to the streets to object gov policies. in march, in one night 650,000 went to the streets. When was the last time Canadians (who are the most passive and hate to exercise democracy beyond a vote) went our in such numbers (you need to have 2mm canadians out on the streets).

I will add one point about this conflict. If you understood Israelis and their mentality, you would understand that if the "Palestinians" adopted a Gandhi type of approach they would have a country. Bigger, more prosperous and better than whatever they were ever hoping. The prob? they dont want a state, they want Israel! and this is where the discussion ends. Im all for a solution. However and sadly, there is none.
 
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dannydan2022

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Those were just guns fired. These were actual deaths.




Most everyone calls for a release of hostages. But you are talking about a terrorist group. "Calling" for anything is meaningless with them. Also people who do not call for release of hostages do not do it because they do not want the focus to shift from the Palestinian civilians and the war crimes by Israel they are currently enduring, and have endured over the decades. This is used as a "distraction" tactic by people, (like shack here for example), to somehow force you to shift focus and prioritize Israeli hostages over Palestinian civilians. But the truth of the matter is, the Palestinian civilians matter more than the Israeli hostages, by virtue of being more in number and by virtue of having suffered decades of oppression.
correction: Hamas is NOT an alien to Gaza. Hamas is an idea, an ideology. They were elected in Gaza. There is a reason why the PA refused to hold an election, its bc Hamas would win. Hanan Ashrawi admits that the majority of Palestinians support Hamas. In Gaza Hamas is the education system, its the health system, its the governning body. So to try to say, well poor Palestinians, there are about 1-1.5mm of them bw Gaza and west bank who support Hamas. Go watch the film of hostages ocming into Gaza, the celebrations were done by "common people". Sharing candies. No more candies now that Israel started to talk arabic...
 

Klatuu

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I guess you are so ignorant that you need some education: in Israel ALL signs are in Hebrew AND Arabic. Arabic is an official language. The supreme court has an arab muslim judge, doctors, lawyers, nurses, tech. Last gov had a member of Government who represents the Arabs, just like plenty of MP's who are arabs and muslims. Is Israel a perfect country? heck no. You want to compare to Canada? during Covid demonstrations against Gov policies resulted in Trudeau making martial law, freezing funds and stopping free speech. In Israel? for 37 weeks straight! (as in EVERY SINGLE week), hundreds of thousands went to the streets to object gov policies. in march, in one night 650,000 went to the streets. When was the last time Canadians (who are the most passive and hate to exercise democracy beyond a vote) went our in such numbers (you need to have 2mm canadians out on the streets).

I will add one point about this conflict. If you understood Israelis and their mentality, you would understand that if the "Palestinians" adopted a Gandhi type of approach they would have a country. Bigger, more prosperous and better than whatever they were ever hoping. The prob? they dont want a state, they want Israel! and this is where the discussion ends. Im all for a solution. However and sadly, there is none.
If only you knew Israel as well as I do.

 

dannydan2022

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And I guess you forgot that Palestinian child that was stabbed to death by his landlord. There are tons of examples of Islamophobia that trump the attacks on Jews. But that said I acknowledge that hate crimes towards both groups - Muslims and Jews are increasing. And that needs to be curbed. And just because Jews are less in number does not mean their lives are more valuable. That is inherently racist. I would argue that Palestinian lives matter more than the Israeli hostages because they are more in number and they are the more vulnerable in this conflict, and the longer it continues, the more they will die.



So did you learn this from the Shelby's Shawarma guy, who is all over social media, pronouncing Pepsi and Bepsi? How original!
nobody's life is worth more. Nobody. Jews rep 1/100 of Muslims so before we compare, if you can show me stats that Muslims are facing equivalent hate, I'll be the first to condemn.

dude, Im from the land, my fam traces its roots 400 years back there (ie they are more "Palestinian" than palestinians haha) , I grew up with arabs, slept with employees of my dad in Gaza, my dad speaks fluent arabic, I understand the culture and the challenges more than what you learnt on tik tok or whatever bullshit source. hows my spelling?
 

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But the truth of the matter is, the Palestinian civilians matter more than the Israeli hostages, by virtue of being more in number and by virtue of having suffered decades of oppression.
really?
 

shack

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No, it was commissioned by them and run by Mainstreet.
Totally legit.
Hardly reliable results from them. From Wikipedia:

Controversies[edit]
The polling firm drew criticism in 2017 for incorrectly calling that year's Calgary mayoral election in polls conducted for Postmedia.[54] Mainstreet Research president Quito Maggi later admitted to "big, big polling failures", and stated that while the company has implemented recommendations from the report, it would have to work to earn back public trust.[52][55]

A similar problem was also reported in the company's polls for the 2019 Nanaimo provincial by-election,

An article in the Star about the unreliability of Mainstream:

What Alberta and B.C. can learn from Mainstreet Research’s poll-gone-wrong in Nanaimo (thestar.com)
 
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shack

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All you did was expose your own racism.
You refuse to accept information if it comes from Muslims.
You are so blatantly racist yet you can't even see it.
Your racism has been called out by dozens of TERB members. Mine, only by you and Kluutz. Get Mainstream to do a poll. Even they can't get wrong this time.

Actually, I adamantly refuse to accept information if it comes from YOU. And the bulk of your sources are from Muslim media.
 
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Conil

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That's one baby.
So it must be 40x worse when it happens to a lot of babies.
Unless you're a racist who thinks Palestinian lives are worth less.
Pallywood, we can't trust Hamas news. But here you go again defending hamass, the attacks against Jews in the world have increased 1000%, but you minimize it, because you're a Jew hater. You've been a Jew hater since you were posting as groggy and flubadub and you got banned, you're back and still spew antisemitism. now instead of Gryfin as a jew hating partner you have the Dane Klatuu, you know his other name.
 
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