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[Frankfooter]

Hey, look who declared his best friend was rapist trump....

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1852884843530448984

 

[Skoob]

Trump's whole life has been a con.
He inherited his money, blew it, bankrupt many times, and used fraud to keep up the illusion.
His charity and his university and other businesses were all frauds.
Sexual assault, libel, are all part of his repertoire.
Cheated on everyone he's ever worked with or was romantically involved with.
Everyone around him are convicted felons, including him.
He stole national security secrets. He believes dictators over his own Intel agencies.
Sold out allies, unilaterally voided treaties forever damaging US international credibility.
He made govt folks stay at his properties, and he charged the govt top rates.
He took a $10m bribe from Egypt and reversed us foriegn policy toward them, his daughter got millions of $worth of trademarks, his son in law walked out with $2b from the Saudis, treasury sec $1b. Solicited straight quid pro quo from oil executives- give me $1b, I'll pass what you want. Lost hundred of thousands of manufacturing jobs. Coast american soybean farmers their lucrative Chinese market. Those farmers now living on govt subsidies.
Has no idea how govt works, tariffs work, what NATO is, or that Puerto Ricans are Americans. Refuses to read his briefs. The vast majority of people who worked with him when president say he is unfit for office. Now he is saying he'll use govt to attack fellow Americans and arrest members of congress. Says he'll get rid of constitution and be a dictator on day 1.
Ooutside of that...

Purely your own subjective opinion which you're entitled to (until the Dems censor platforms if they win the election).
He was president for 4 years...democracy did not come to an end and he wasn't the war monger he was made out to be leading up to the election.
Celebrities said they would move to Canada if he won...they didn't and somehow survived his tenure despite the doom & gloom predicted by the Dems.

No one really cares what someone did in their private lives years before taking office...they care about what their president has done while in office...and he did a lot of good things.

Don't believe me?

Here's a fact-checked article by a neutral author assessing what he did, didn't do, etc. I think you'll be surprised if you can suspend your cognitive bias until the end of the article.


New York Times: This list of President Trump’s accomplishments has been circulating on social media for months and has most likely been viewed by millions of people. I examined each claim to the best of my ability, reaching out to people and institutions who had special insight to see if they considered the claims accurate.
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/09/11/opinion/fact-check-trump.html

 

[dirtydaveiii]

Trump's whole life has been a con.
He inherited his money, blew it, bankrupt many times, and used fraud to keep up the illusion.
His charity and his university and other businesses were all frauds.
Sexual assault, libel, are all part of his repertoire.
Cheated on everyone he's ever worked with or was romantically involved with.
Everyone around him are convicted felons, including him.
He stole national security secrets. He believes dictators over his own Intel agencies.
Sold out allies, unilaterally voided treaties forever damaging US international credibility.
He made govt folks stay at his properties, and he charged the govt top rates.
He took a $10m bribe from Egypt and reversed us foriegn policy toward them, his daughter got millions of $worth of trademarks, his son in law walked out with $2b from the Saudis, treasury sec $1b. Solicited straight quid pro quo from oil executives- give me $1b, I'll pass what you want. Lost hundred of thousands of manufacturing jobs. Coast american soybean farmers their lucrative Chinese market. Those farmers now living on govt subsidies.
Has no idea how govt works, tariffs work, what NATO is, or that Puerto Ricans are Americans. Refuses to read his briefs. The vast majority of people who worked with him when president say he is unfit for office. Now he is saying he'll use govt to attack fellow Americans and arrest members of congress. Says he'll get rid of constitution and be a dictator on day 1.
Ooutside of that...

you forgot the 8.2 trillion in new debt he accumulated

 

[Skoob]

you forgot the 8.2 trillion in new debt he accumulated

Debt accumulated under each president since 1977
https://www.politifact.com/factchec...checking-joe-biden-on-debt-accumulated-under/

 

[Valcazar]

Don't like my estimate about 1/2 the country? Ok, how many millions of people then?

Several millions.

That so many millions will vote for him (and even more support him) is an undeniable stain on the country.

 

[Valcazar]

I find these debates hilarious and don’t get too deep into them because Trump is objectively pretty politically moderate. Even compared to me .

If they hate Trump, they would probably wish upon my death.

Well, now I'm curious.
What makes him "objectively pretty politically moderate" in your eyes?

 

[JeanGary Diablo]

If George Lincoln Rockwell were around today, I'm pretty sure he'd have a chance of winning the US presidency. That country is fucked.

 

[Skoob]

Several millions.

That so many millions will vote for him (and even more support him) is an undeniable stain on the country.

Have you asked yourself why support for him would be so strong?

 

[Valcazar]

Have you asked yourself why support for him would be so strong?

Yes, repeatedly.
It's a major social issue of the times.
Unfucking the country so that this trend gets reversed to where it is back to a fringe that isn't a threat to the country electorally will take a long time.

 

[Skoob]

Yes, repeatedly.
It's a major social issue of the times.
Unfucking the country so that this trend gets reversed to where it is back to a fringe that isn't a threat to the country electorally will take a long time.

The social issue that has created strong support for Trump is the very reason he needs to get elected to continue the work of fixing it.
Over the past 4 years, the current leadership has made it worse.

 

[Valcazar]

The social issue that has created strong support for Trump is the very reason he needs to get elected to continue the work of fixing it.
Over the past 4 years, the current leadership has made it worse.

Really?

One issue alone explains it all?

You're a political genius.

 

[Skoob]

Really?

One issue alone explains it all?

You're a political genius.

You said its' " a social issue of the times".
What other issue are you referring to?

(maybe put some effort into explaining the context of your remarks rather than single one-liners left open to interpretation?)

 

[Valcazar]

You said its' " a social issue of the times".
What other issue are you referring to?

(maybe put some effort into explaining the context of your remarks rather than single one-liners left open to interpretation?)

The fact that Fascism has so much support is the social issue I was referring to.

Perhaps I misinterpreted your statement: " The social issue that has created strong support for Trump is the very reason he needs to get elected to continue the work of fixing it. "

That implied you thought there was a social issue that had created the strong support I was remarking on, since you said "that has created".
If that isn't what you meant, I invite you to explain further.

 

[Skoob]

The fact that Fascism has so much support is the social issue I was referring to.

Perhaps I misinterpreted your statement: " The social issue that has created strong support for Trump is the very reason he needs to get elected to continue the work of fixing it. "

That implied you thought there was a social issue that had created the strong support I was remarking on, since you said "that has created".
If that isn't what you meant, I invite you to explain further.

Why would you think Fascism has support? What Fascist things did Trump do while in office? The US had 4 years of Trump as president...no impact to democracy, no wars, etc. So this whole Dem-driven narrative about him being a Fascist is pure propaganda.

You haven't explained why such a significant portion of Americans support Trump despite your belief that it's driven by some "social" issue?

 

[Valcazar]

Why would you think Fascism has support? What Fascist things did Trump do while in office? The US had 4 years of Trump as president...no impact to democracy, no wars, etc. So this whole Dem-driven narrative about him being a Fascist is pure propaganda.

I get that rejecting the evidence of your own eyes is important - the Party has told you to do it.
It's sad, but I get it.

You haven't explained why such a significant portion of Americans support Trump despite your belief that it's driven by some "social" issue?

I never said it is driven by some "social" issue other than the very fact that anything involving society is a "social" issue.
Disentangling all the reasons why Trumpism is so popular is going to be the work of quite some time.
I know lots of people want to go with "lots of the US is made of horrible people" but I think we can do a lot better than that.

 

[shack]

I beg to differ. He is more well written and more articulate. I stand by that.

That might have been a compliment to him had you not set the bar so low.

 

[Skoob]

I get that rejecting the evidence of your own eyes is important - the Party has told you to do it.
It's sad, but I get it.



I never said it is driven by some "social" issue other than the very fact that anything involving society is a "social" issue.
Disentangling all the reasons why Trumpism is so popular is going to be the work of quite some time.
I know lots of people want to go with "lots of the US is made of horrible people" but I think we can do a lot better than that.

You're point is harder to get a hold of than Hunter's laptop.

You said: " The fact that Fascism has so much support is the social issue I was referring to."

I asked why you would think Fascism has support?

You ignored that and instead pivoted (like all leftists do when cornered) to making some claim that I reject evidence.

Show me this evidence before we move further and try your best not to deflect.

 

[terbman1]

Trump's whole life has been a con.
He inherited his money, blew it, bankrupt many times, and used fraud to keep up the illusion.
His charity and his university and other businesses were all frauds.
Sexual assault, libel, are all part of his repertoire.
Cheated on everyone he's ever worked with or was romantically involved with.
Everyone around him are convicted felons, including him.
He stole national security secrets. He believes dictators over his own Intel agencies.
Sold out allies, unilaterally voided treaties forever damaging US international credibility.
He made govt folks stay at his properties, and he charged the govt top rates.
He took a $10m bribe from Egypt and reversed us foriegn policy toward them, his daughter got millions of $worth of trademarks, his son in law walked out with $2b from the Saudis, treasury sec $1b. Solicited straight quid pro quo from oil executives- give me $1b, I'll pass what you want. Lost hundred of thousands of manufacturing jobs. Cost american soybean farmers their lucrative Chinese market. Those farmers now living on govt subsidies.
Has no idea how govt works, tariffs work, what NATO is, or that Puerto Ricans are Americans. Refuses to read his briefs. The vast majority of people who worked with him when president say he is unfit for office. Now he is saying he'll use govt to attack fellow Americans and arrest members of congress. Says he'll get rid of constitution and be a dictator on day 1.
Ooutside of that...

So he’s like any other politician….Surely Kamala, Biden, Obama, Bush, Clinton (just to name a few) has never done any shady stuff…You should actually learn about history before you comment on politics.

 

[terbman1]

Well, now I'm curious.
What makes him "objectively pretty politically moderate" in your eyes?

Because he is. 10-15 years ago his platform and ideas would fit in line with blue party ideals. For example, to reference a more recent president; his views on border control is almost exactly the same as Obama’s

 

[kittykellykat]

Hey twin, how's your day going?

Lmao. @ everyone: they aren’t the same person.

terbman1 is a regular of mine. jimidean called me “kitty” earlier, and obviously doesn’t know who I am; he would’ve called me Kelly otherwise