What Everyone Gets Wrong About Tulsi Gabbard

[bver_hunter]

You're going to use Pelosi???? They weren't aware???? hahaha that's funny. More like they were totally aware and didn't want it to turn into a big story.

btw you have to wonder about Pelosi and how connected she is to inside traders...makes you wonder how she became so rich...hmmmmm....

Nancy Pelosi sold Nvidia stock worth millions just weeks before DeepSeek caused collapse
https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/com...s-before-deepseek-caused-collapse/ar-AA1xXDw3

Good distraction skoobie. By the way your article uses Trump two cents. So how about Kushner's billions from the Saudi Government, or Donald and Melania's cryptocurrency launches before Trump enters the Whitehouse!!

‘Trump’s grifting tendencies’: how the president’s crypto ties could spur corruption

With Trump promising the US will be ‘crypto capital of the planet’, experts say the industry is poised for laxer oversight

www.theguardian.com

 

[Skoob]

Good distraction skoobie. By the way your article uses Trump two cents. So how about Kushner's billions from the Saudi Government, or Donald and Melania's cryptocurrency launches before Trump enters the Whitehouse!!

‘Trump’s grifting tendencies’: how the president’s crypto ties could spur corruption

With Trump promising the US will be ‘crypto capital of the planet’, experts say the industry is poised for laxer oversight

www.theguardian.com

And don't forget Burisma! That one is a classic! Good thing Joe pardoned his son.

 

[bver_hunter]

And don't forget Burisma! That one is a classic! Good thing Joe pardoned his son.

Do not forget son-in-law Kushner's Father Charles who was also like trump a convicted felon serving time in prison, and was pardoned.
But this convicted felon is then rewarded and elevated to an Ambassador in France...........Totally Classic!!
Well he met all of Convicted Felon Trump's criteria to make hime a "Fine Guy"!!

 

[Skoob]

Do not forget son-in-law Kushner's Father Charles who was also like trump a convicted felon serving time in prison, and was pardoned.
But this convicted felon is then rewarded and elevated to an Ambassador in France...........Totally Classic!!
Well he met all of Convicted Felon Trump's criteria to make hime a "Fine Guy"!!

Why go all the way back decades when there are more recent Democrats that are getting thrown in jail for things they actually did while in office?


Menendez, D-N.J., had pleaded with U.S. District Judge Sidney Stein of the Southern District of New York for mercy, twice breaking down in tears.
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/ju...ez-sentenced-gold-bar-bribery-case-rcna189044

 

[bver_hunter]

Why go all the way back decades when there are more recent Democrats that are getting thrown in jail for things they actually did while in office?


Menendez, D-N.J., had pleaded with U.S. District Judge Sidney Stein of the Southern District of New York for mercy, twice breaking down in tears.
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/ju...ez-sentenced-gold-bar-bribery-case-rcna189044

Remember that Trump pardoned him in 2020 before he left office and not "decades ago". Now he makes him an Ambassador to France...... a convicted felon!!
But Biden on the other hand refused to pardon Menendez for his corruption and rightfully so!!
But you single out a single Democrat when there are numerous republicans like Convicted Felon Trump himself, Stone, Manafort, Flynn, Bannon and Papadopolous!!
Trump pardoned all these felons!!

 

[Frankfooter]

Remember that Trump pardoned him in 2020 before he left office and not "decades ago". Now he makes him an Ambassador to France...... a convicted felon!!
But Biden on the other hand refused to pardon Menendez for his corruption and rightfully so!!
But you single out a single Democrat when there are numerous republicans like Convicted Felon Trump himself, Stone, Manafort, Flynn, Bannon and Papadopolous!!
Trump pardoned all these felons!!

Speaking of pardons, the felon in chief has pardoned 2 pedophile supporters from the J6 coup attempt.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1884957033197097340

 

[kherg007]

This is the most sensitive job one can have. Is she really the best out there? It's not merit. It's a different sort of DEI - hire those who are Don's Ego Inflators.
Not merit. Not competence.

 

[mandrill]

This is the most sensitive job one can have. Is she really the best out there? It's not merit. It's a different sort of DEI - hire those who are Don's Ego Inflators.
Not merit. Not competence.

Come, sir!

Do you truly suggest that Peter Hegseth is not the best of them?!?!?!

 

[Butler1000]

This is the most sensitive job one can have. Is she really the best out there? It's not merit. It's a different sort of DEI - hire those who are Don's Ego Inflators.
Not merit. Not competence.

If you want to change the culture, yes, yes she is.

The argument is she isn't the usual spook. Considering the previous culture I consider that an asset.

 

[Skoob]

Remember that Trump pardoned him in 2020 before he left office and not "decades ago". Now he makes him an Ambassador to France...... a convicted felon!!
But Biden on the other hand refused to pardon Menendez for his corruption and rightfully so!!
But you single out a single Democrat when there are numerous republicans like Convicted Felon Trump himself, Stone, Manafort, Flynn, Bannon and Papadopolous!!
Trump pardoned all these felons!!

Kushner was convicted in 2005. Try and keep up.

Amazing how many Democrats have been seeing the truthwhen the tables are tuned...

Menendez claimed "political prosecution" outside the New York federal courthouse after he was sentenced.

• "President Trump was right," Menendez said.
• "This process is political, and it's corrupted to the core. I hope President Trump cleans up the cesspool and restores the integrity to the system."
  https://www.axios.com/2025/01/30/bob-menendez-sentenced-trump-political-prosecution

btw If Trump proactively pardoned his own family like Biden did, you would be setting yourself on fire. Biden does it............the usual hypocritical silence.

 

[Valcazar]

This is the most sensitive job one can have. Is she really the best out there? It's not merit. It's a different sort of DEI - hire those who are Don's Ego Inflators.
Not merit. Not competence.

It's not just "will they suck up to and obey Trump".
They also have to dislike the agency as an independent power centre.

Patel's job is to not only use the FBI as a force to harass and threaten Trump's enemies, but also make it something that can't and won't act against Trump and his cronies.
It can't continue to have its own sense of independence and responsibilities outside the president.

Gabbard's role is similar for the intelligence agencies more broadly. They will be broken to Trump's will.
Now, if you think their existence as an independent power centre was bad because they had no reason to be loyal to the interests of the country as a whole or its elected officials, you might see this as a good thing.
Making these powerful forces tools the President can use freely may be a price you think is fine to break the backs of them as a power bloc.

Butler, for instance, considers it a good tradeoff, as he says above.

 

[Butler1000]

It's not just "will they suck up to and obey Trump".
They also have to dislike the agency as an independent power centre.

Patel's job is to not only use the FBI as a force to harass and threaten Trump's enemies, but also make it something that can't and won't act against Trump and his cronies.
It can't continue to have its own sense of independence and responsibilities outside the president.

Gabbard's role is similar for the intelligence agencies more broadly. They will be broken to Trump's will.
Now, if you think their existence as an independent power centre was bad because they had no reason to be loyal to the interests of the country as a whole or its elected officials, you might see this as a good thing.
Making these powerful forces tools the President can use freely may be a price you think is fine to break the backs of them as a power bloc.

Butler, for instance, considers it a good tradeoff, as he says above.

Man, is your paranoia getting worse.

 

[Knuckle Ball]

Man, is your paranoia getting worse.

It’s not paranoia when the Nazis are in charge.

 

[Butler1000]

It’s not paranoia when the Nazis are in charge.

What's most amazing about statements like this is this. Either it's just hyperbole because the poster just doesn't understand how bad it really was in Germany under them.

Or the USA has gotten so bad under the Elites the people are willing to let it happen.

But most if all it's a complete misunderstanding of the suspensions of democracy needed to get there. And that just hasn't happened and the checks and balances won't let it. Nor will the rank and file military.

 

[kherg007]

What's most amazing about statements like this is this. Either it's just hyperbole because the poster just doesn't understand how bad it really was in Germany under them.

Or the USA has gotten so bad under the Elites the people are willing to let it happen.

But most if all it's a complete misunderstanding of the suspensions of democracy needed to get there. And that just hasn't happened and the checks and balances won't let it. Nor will the rank and file military.

You raise a good point. But it looks like the first line of checks - the congress, especially the senate - has bowed. I mean a guy who never ran anything well, who has a major character problem, doesn't know the international scene, is put in charge of the largest agency in the world??
All previous Sec Defs were longstanding generals or top executives from major defense contractors.

But you're right - let's see if there is a line for which they will show a spine. Let's hope.
Any other president firing off clearly illegal EO's would be censured by now. And, there would be a contingent who would meet with him to tell him to back off a bit or else the senate will shut him down. Congress is article I in US Constitution. The founder wanted power to come from there.

 

[Frankfooter]

What's most amazing about statements like this is this. Either it's just hyperbole because the poster just doesn't understand how bad it really was in Germany under them.

Or the USA has gotten so bad under the Elites the people are willing to let it happen.

But most if all it's a complete misunderstanding of the suspensions of democracy needed to get there. And that just hasn't happened and the checks and balances won't let it. Nor will the rank and file military.

2 years ago I would have agreed, but now we have the US funding and aiding genocide and now with a leader who is morally way worse.

 

[Knuckle Ball]

What's most amazing about statements like this is this. Either it's just hyperbole because the poster just doesn't understand how bad it really was in Germany under them.

Or the USA has gotten so bad under the Elites the people are willing to let it happen.

But most if all it's a complete misunderstanding of the suspensions of democracy needed to get there. And that just hasn't happened and the checks and balances won't let it. Nor will the rank and file military.

What’s amazing about statements like this is the poster refuses to acknowledge the obvious similarities between what is happening now and Hitler’s rise to power. If you are somehow blind to what’s happening in front of you then you are either a Nazi or one of their cheerleaders.

 

[Valcazar]

Or the USA has gotten so bad under the Elites the people are willing to let it happen.

But most if all it's a complete misunderstanding of the suspensions of democracy needed to get there. And that just hasn't happened and the checks and balances won't let it. Nor will the rank and file military.

Ahh, the good old "the deep state guardrails will stop him, so it is fine that he tries for it actually," angle. After all, the Elites fucked up enough that the people want it, so it is good."

 

[Knuckle Ball]

You raise a good point. But it looks like the first line of checks - the congress, especially the senate - has bowed. I mean a guy who never ran anything well, who has a major character problem, doesn't know the international scene, is put in charge of the largest agency in the world??
All previous Sec Defs were longstanding generals or top executives from major defense contractors.

But you're right - let's see if there is a line for which they will show a spine. Let's hope.
Any other president firing off clearly illegal EO's would be censured by now. And, there would be a contingent who would meet with him to tell him to back off a bit or else the senate will shut him down. Congress is article I in US Constitution. The founder wanted power to come from there.

Exactly.

And what are the other checks on Trump’s power?
The Supreme Court? .
The media?
The American people?

America is enthusiastically hurtling towards fascism.

 

[Butler1000]

What’s amazing about statements like this is the poster refuses to acknowledge the obvious similarities between what is happening now and Hitler’s rise to power. If you are somehow blind to what’s happening in front of you then you are either a Nazi or one of their cheerleaders.

The circumstances are vastly different. Completely different economic circumstances to start. Different political system. The "leader" is not nearly as popular. Different world politics in play.

This is merely a rise in populism brought on by the increased presence of oligarchs in US politics. A far better historical comparison is the era 1900-1925.

In that era you saw the rise of new tech(airplane, cars, assembly line, electricity, indoor plumbing) in society. Attempted monopolies. Now it's Tech oligarchs and the rise of AI, E-commerce, Battery storage, and more. Resulting in shifts in the workplace.

In that time period you also had a war weary nation, like now, a pandemic, a migrant crisis, a general hedonism, all of which led to similar fights on the political scene.

Even as things became far worse in the depression, the absolute worst it got was the infamous Madison Square Garden rally, which while a stain on history, in reality led nowhere. Fascism never took hold. Because at its core the psyche of the nation just doesn't allow for it.

Until I see real change similar to that era in Germany, Spain, Italy etc, I just don't buy it.