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jimidean2011

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Yes good try, trying to explain yourself away.
But alas, its too little, too late.
Wait...isn't it forbidden to have multiple accounts on here? You should report me to the mods so the can see if both accounts are coming from the same IP address. Maybe you can get me banned?
 

Frankfooter

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Ya and Kamala’s father is an ardent and vocal Marxist 😬

Abortion will be fine, I don’t know why everyone is harping on about that.

Regardless of my political leanings, I’m merely pointing out that framing his NYC rally as a Nazi event is plain dishonest slimey reporting. That is all. Surely you can concede this part, at least?

(If not, it’s cool IDRC — we can just silently and mutually morally judge each other 🤝 )
The US is fucked.
Biden/Harris have funded 73% of the US/Israeli genocide on Palestinians, that's nazi like evil.
Trump threatens fascist government, from ending democracy, a court made of stooges on billionaire pay, kicking out minorities and trying to absolve himself of all crimes.
I'd say he's just old school populist/fascist while Harris/Biden are more genocidal nazi like.
 
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kittykellykat

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The US is fucked.
Biden/Harris have funded 73% of the US/Israeli genocide on Palestinians, that's nazi like evil.
Trump threatens fascist government, from ending democracy, a court made of stooges on billionaire pay, kicking out minorities and trying to absolve himself of all crimes.
I'd say he's just old school populist/fascist while Harris/Biden are more genocidal nazi like.
Democracy is fake and gay

(fair points tho)
 

Shaquille Oatmeal

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The US paid for 73% of the genocide on Palestinians, that makes them complicit in genocide.
Same crime as the nazis.
How did you come up with that number?
It is not yet ruled a genocide by the ICJ.
Even if we consider it genocide for the sake of the argument, how can the US be responsible for what Israel actually did?
 

shack

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Are the same consequences applied to Biden who called 1/2 the American public garbage?
But that 1/2 was already voting for trump. It was aimed explicitly at them.

The garbage insult was lobbed at millions of Latinos, some of whom would have voted for trump. How many will actually change their vote because of the garbage comment is speculation but guaranteed they lost some votes. Maybe we'll find out after the election.
 

shack

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What a pathetic reply. Are you dumb enough to believe Trump personally hires these people? Be honest.
HIs team does, and his team represents him. He depends on them to show the best version of him possible. We saw the version of him they presented to the nation.
 
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The Oracle

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Exactly this.
And it escapes many Trump supporters.
Well it's lost on me...How was the ''garbage comment'' lobbed at millions of Latinos?

Puerto Rico's landfills are full. They have a huge waste management problem. The comedian has an obsession with the floating island of garbage in the Pacific ocean. He tries to tie it together in a joke. What's that got to do with Puerto Rican heritage persons in the states? Really nothing. Joke isn't funny and highly inappropriate for this event.

Here is the context.


 
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Shaquille Oatmeal

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Puerto Rico's landfills are full. They have a huge waste management problem. The comedian has an obsession with the floating island of garbage in the Pacific ocean. He tries to tie it together in a joke. What's that got to do with Puerto Rican heritage persons in the states? Really nothing. Joke isn't funny and highly inappropriate for this event.
Rogan tried to intellectualize it.
But I think Tony's comment was directed at Puerto Rico and its people, not its waste management issues.
Why do I say that?
Well for one waste management seems to be a strange thing to bring up at a Trump rally.
Secondly considering his previous comments was about Latinos coming into the US in large numbers and him asking them to go back. (Open arms, go back...)
So like you say, what was he trying to tie together?
Garbage and Puerto Rico's people?
That would be offensive and I believe it was received as he intended it.
His mistake was his assumption that "it is a Trump rally and therefore racist jokes are acceptable".
As you could see, all his jokes were racially insensitive in nature.
That reflects badly on Trump as it did.
 

shack

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What a pathetic reply. Are you dumb enough to believe Trump personally hires these people? Be honest.
So you're saying you would believe that your host intentionally hired a caterer that they know would poison the guests on the most important day of their lives? :unsure: :ROFLMAO:
What a pathetic reply. Are you dumb enough to think that anybody would think that. That was obviously not what Shaq was saying. The point is that the host did a poor job hiring. The caterer was not properly vetted. The host bears some responsibility.
 
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shack

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What if the wedding planner hired the caterer. Because the rally planner chose Tony to be there not Trump as an individual. He is the presidential candidate, he does't scrutinize minor details. He has an election to win. It's stunning that you are intentionally avoiding that realization. Makes me wonder why you are being willfully ignorant.
What a pathetic reply So you're saying that people who worked for trump were not the ones who hired the comic?

They read his whole routine prior and they, trump's team, left that in. They approved it knowing that the comic was representing trump and his values indirectly.
 
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Trump spews venom against minorities for no reason.
Biden said what most people think about Trump supporters.
Maybe why he didn't receive the same backlash.
Trump's supporters are 1/2 the country...millions of people. Trump doesn't spew venom against minorities...he spews the truth about illegal immigrants and criminals.
 
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shack

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The buck stops with Trump.
He is incapable of comprehending. He's part of the cult of trump Devotees and is disassociated from reality. It's one of the symptoms of tDS, trump Devotee Syndrome.

Inability to think independently
Disassociation from reality.
Inability to accept any criticism whatsoever of the anointed one.

AKA, they are brain dead zombies and they don't even realize it.
 
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Shaquille Oatmeal

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Trump doesn't spew venom against minorities...he spews the truth about illegal immigrants and criminals.
He spewed venom against legal Haitian immigrants and said they eat pets.
The majority of illegal immigrants are good people.
He also said that they are violently taking over cities, which is also untrue.
 
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Well it's lost on me...How was the ''garbage comment'' lobbed at millions of Latinos?

Puerto Rico's landfills are full. They have a huge waste management problem. The comedian has an obsession with the floating island of garbage in the Pacific ocean. He tries to tie it together in a joke. What's that got to do with Puerto Rican heritage persons in the states? Really nothing. Joke isn't funny and highly inappropriate for this event.

Here is the context.


Also,

- his shoelaces were untied
- the dog ate his original material
- the sun was in his eyes
 
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