Sugar Dating Experience
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Agree Seeking is really going downhill. Lots of fake profiles. And the real girls there are either the 'I am the princess' type or the bottom of the barrel kind.
It might be a bit late now. If you don't like the number, just politely tell them so. "Sorry, that's more than I'm used to paying." Most girls will come down. If they don't, just move on. There is a lot out there.Be patient. They're the ones that need our money and my experience has shown that you can get good value. Hint: Stay away from the glamour girls, the girls who say they want rich guys, give me whenever I want and I never even talk to ones who think that they are princesses. We need to get these girls to understand that they have to be reasonable. If guys are overpaying, it makes it harder for all of us.
But, be polite and gentlemanly. There are so many assholes out there that treat them like service providers, just being polite will get their attention. Do you want a pro or a college girl who needs a few extra bucks. At the beginning, act like you're trying to get a girl to go out with you.
I get the sense most girls don't even want to come out for meet & greet without getting paid. I'm just not sure how not to lose their attention if I suggest like a drink/lunch meetup first. I also want to make sure the pics are at least the same person I'm meeting.
You can always ask for a video call but some would be worried that you are recording it
Having an unpaid meet and greet (where the guy covers the food/drinks) is perfectly reasonable on both sides.
Why should a guy start paying for something he doesn't even know if he's getting yet because you've never even met?
If she's unwilling to do this one-time thing just move on. Any reasonable woman should understand this is necessary.
Why should a guy start paying for something he doesn't even know if he's getting yet because you've never even met?
If she's unwilling to do this one-time thing just move on. Any reasonable woman should understand this is necessary.
Don't give in. They'll learn soon enough.
You just might. But if you do, it means you made the right decision to not give in. They are being unreasonable.
Which is totally appropriate. If they can't understand that, then too bad for them.
Exactly, even from the girl pov, you think they would want to check me out first as well before some private fun. Common sense to me.
There's no way I'm giving in. If we do continue to disagree on the price point, I will have to bring up SP prices analogy, even tho I know it's a different scene. But hey for $500 you can get a solid VIP girl.
Absolutely. She should want to know that you are who you say you are. A woman who says 'yes' without any sort of screening is a huge
red flag. Getting to know someone for an hour or so at a bar isn't a lot to ask before going ahead with this kind of thing.
The girls that are willing to see you at the drop of a hat without knowing anything about you are professional service providers. If that's what you're looking for, all fine and well.
For a true SD/SB arrangement, I'd move on.
If the girl is pretty, and has her act (mostly) together, and has looked on Reddit or some other boards, she is gong to ask for $500. The strange part is recently I proposed to a good looking SA girl $400, the girl responded "not worth my time", now I see she is a full on escort for $400/hour. Go figure!
White girls routinely charge $500 and up. Reddit suggest a quarter of monthly rent which is closer to $600 in Toronto.
A SA girl not agreeing to $400 and go escorting is not surprising either. An SB date may not be very long but it’s definitely closer to 3 hours. I once had a meet and greet with a girl off SA and she admitted that she’s an escort and she straight up told me that she does not want to dilute her hourly rate. Her exact words.
The issue that most SB don't realize is that many of us also have to include hotel costs into the cost of the meet. Unless you live alone or even better you find a unicorn that can host.
Most I've done for a meet is 600 and I regretted it as soon as I said goodbye to her. She was 24, Indonesian with a tight body. Incredibly tight and was amazingly wet the entire time. Her face while I was fucking her was pretty amazing - she ended up leaving scratch marks all over my arms. But at the end of the day it cost me 800+ all in which could have been been 3-4 sessions with an SP. Despite how hot it was I'm not calling her back.
Most I've done for a meet is 600 and I regretted it as soon as I said goodbye to her. She was 24, Indonesian with a tight body. Incredibly tight and was amazingly wet the entire time. Her face while I was fucking her was pretty amazing - she ended up leaving scratch marks all over my arms. But at the end of the day it cost me 800+ all in which could have been been 3-4 sessions with an SP. Despite how hot it was I'm not calling her back.
Literally when she say not worth her time, is it because she knows as escort, one hour is one hour....whereas for the same money in sugar dating, time can be longer. More difficult for them to just end it after one hour? Idk just a thought.
If you are meeting Co-eds that is likely, but I have met young professionals, single mothers, etc. Who can easily host.
That has also been my experience. Mind you, 30 is the lower age limit for me so I tend to meet women who at least partially have their shit together.
Sounds like you've had a pretty interesting journey in the sugar dating scene. It's great when it feels more like mutual enjoyment rather than purely transactional. Do you find age makes a difference in the connection?
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You are my spirit animal. I find myself on a hot streak. I’ll DM you to discuss enterprising opportunitiesI shouldn't jinx myself but I've been on a hot streak lately. In the last month I've found and met 1 19 y.o. black girl (Humber student) who's cute and smart and is much less innocent than she looks. We hang out for 6-8 hours, fuck, watch movies (she cried at the end of Cuckoo's Nest) and then go for round 2 before I take her back to her mom's house. She says she has an 18 y.o. friend who wants to join us.
The second girl is also black and 20. Smoking body and dresses to show it off. Student at York. While messaging on the site, one of the first things she asked me is if I'm dominant. She likes to be physically abused and verbally degraded. We've had two dates so far and she's slept over both times. I've slapped her and choked her and called her lots of names. She wants to continue because she "likes the way I treat her".
She's out of my league in the looks and age departments, yet she wants me, an older dad-bod guy to control her sexually. She wants to "be my toy". I'm going to see if she'll let me totally control the relationship and she'll be subservient to me. Nothing forceful, of course. I'll ask if she thinks that would be appealing to her. Fingers crossed. It sounds like fun.
The max I'll pay is $400 for anyone and they are both within my budget.
And just this morning, I'm chatting on the site with two more black seriously pretty cuties (I haven't been with a white girl for a couple of years). One is 22 and the other is 19. They both have very sweet bodies, petite and slim athletic. The 22 y.o. is only looking for hookups and said her price is $200. I'm hot for her so I offered $250 for 3 hours confirming there will be sex and she just asked for my address. I'm working on the 19 y.o. who's never been with an older guy convincing her about how older guys know how to treat girls her age much better than the younger ones.
They're either going to kill me or bankrupt me. That's potentially 5 girls.
(I hope I haven't just jinxed myself.)
