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richaceg

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Do Palestinians, including Hamas, have human rights, rich?
Do Palestinians, including Hamas, have the right to self defence against an internationally recognized, illegal occupation of Palestine?
Are palestinians and Hamas the same? you can't seem to differentiate between them...I can...Hamas are terrorists...
 

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Are palestinians and Hamas the same? you can't seem to differentiate between them...I can...Hamas are terrorists...
You are trying to argue that if you call someone a terrorist then you can declare they no longer are human and have human rights, aren't you?
That's a shitty tactic.

If you think that's true then any country can call anyone a terrorist and deprive them of human rights or kill them.
Is that what you want, or do you just want this applied only to Palestinians?


 
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richaceg

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You are trying to argue that if you call someone a terrorist then you can declare they no longer are human and have human rights, aren't you?
That's a shitty tactic.

If you think that's true then any country can call anyone a terrorist and deprive them of human rights or kill them.
Is that what you want, or do you just want this applied only to Palestinians?


Is this how your mind works? I type a simple sentence and your mind is running wild with different scenarios in your head...my question is quite simple...
You claim Hamas are Palestinians....so I ask you...are all palestinians Hamas? Somehow you can't answer that simple question...don't be mad...just make sense...
 

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Is this how your mind works? I type a simple sentence and your mind is running wild with different scenarios in your head...my question is quite simple...
You claim Hamas are Palestinians....so I ask you...are all palestinians Hamas? Somehow you can't answer that simple question...don't be mad...just make sense...
Its a stupid question that I didn't think you were taking seriously.
Not all Palestinians are Hamas just the way that not all Jews are zionists.

The question still stands, why do you think declaring someone a terrorist means they don't have human rights?
All that does is turn you into a terrorist yourself, where you declare that you can kill anyone, their family and their homes because you declared they are not human, just 'terrorists'. That makes you into a terrorist.

Either you accept everyone has human rights or you don't.
Which is it, rich?
 
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whynot888

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Hamas are Palestinians, rich.
You can't use that as an excuse to strip Palestinians of their right to self defence against an illegal occupation.
Do you think Palestinians have the right to self defence or not?
Israel has the rights to defend and retaliate as well.
 

richaceg

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Its a stupid question that I didn't think you were taking seriously.
Not all Palestinians are Hamas just the way that not all Jews are zionists.

The question still stands, why do you think declaring someone a terrorist means they don't have human rights?
All that does is turn you into a terrorist yourself, where you declare that you can kill anyone, their family and their homes because you declared they are not human, just 'terrorists'. That makes you into a terrorist.

Either you accept everyone has human rights or you don't.
Which is it, rich?
So you do know that me condemning Hamas has nothing to do with Palestinians...Me saying Hamas never cared about the well being of the Palestinians but more about achieving their goal - to eliminate Jews...that's what they said...not zionists...jews...you ok with Hamas killing jews?
 

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The military leader of Hamas has said he believes he has gained the upper hand over Israel and that the spiralling civilian death toll in Gaza would work in the militant group’s favor, according to a report by the Wall Street Journal, citing leaked messages the newspaper said it had seen.

“We have the Israelis right where we want them,” Yahya Sinwar told other Hamas leaders recently, according to one of the messages, the WSJ reported Monday. In another, Sinwar is said to have described civilian deaths as “necessary sacrifices” while citing past independence-related conflicts in countries like Algeria.

 
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The military leader of Hamas has said he believes he has gained the upper hand over Israel and that the spiralling civilian death toll in Gaza would work in the militant group’s favor, according to a report by the Wall Street Journal, citing leaked messages the newspaper said it had seen.

“We have the Israelis right where we want them,” Yahya Sinwar told other Hamas leaders recently, according to one of the messages, the WSJ reported Monday. In another, Sinwar is said to have described civilian deaths as “necessary sacrifices” while citing past independence-related conflicts in countries like Algeria.

Sinwar and Netanyahu - the "two psychopaths in charge"...
 

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Yes, Hamas was responding to ...
Hamas committed a massive terror attack against mainly civilian targets that not only derailed a continuing improvement in the opportunities for Gazans but started a war, all because Sinwar thinks dead Palestinians look good in pictures.
 
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basketcase

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Nope. Facts disagree with you. Both sides take hostages. ...
Israel arrests people engaged or suspected of violent acts. Hamas took hostages because they were in Israel.

The proof? The ICC, ICJ, and UN all demanded Hamas immediately and unconditionally release their hostages. No such demand to Israel.
 
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