Israel at war

basketcase

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Israeli hostage vs Palestinian hostage. Before and after captivity.
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Lets see. One side's prisoners are taken for their actions and had their names, locations and status disclosed to multiple international organizations. The other side kidnapped people solely for being somewhere they could access and is refusing not only to allow access to the Red Cross but to even acknowledge who they have.
 
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The word "Everything" has a literal meaning. That meaning does not have to be interpreted in anyway.

Interpreting is giving meaning to something, that is not readily apparent, using supporting information and context. For example, the Likud charter that says - "From the river to the sea there will only be Israeli sovereignty" - is a genocidal slogan even though there is no explicit mention of "eliminating everything". In this case we are interpreting this slogan based on Israeli state policy and actions.

"We will eliminate everything" however needs no such interpretation. It's meaning and intent to commit genocide is crystal clear.
You've descended too far for me to chase you down there.

People can see the discussion for themselves.
 

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It will end when Palestinians get their own state and focus on improving their lives, not trying to eliminate their neighbors from the river to the sea...that motto doesn't end well for the Palestinians....as history should've taught them...
They aren't 'neighbours'.
They are the people that stole their homes and are living in them.

 
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Did Hamas value the lives of Palestinians? You should start there...what were they trying to achieve slaughtering 1200 israelis?
Yes, Hamas was responding to the 238 settler terrorist attacks on Palestinians in 2023 along with the storming of the Al Aqsa, on behalf of Palestinians.
As they did in 2021 as well, for similar reasons.

The only difference is that this time they got beyond the concentration camp because its likely Netanyahu allowed them so he could start a war.

 
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Frankfooter

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Is this your new nickname for me, Geno? How many bad ones have you abandoned so far? LOL.

Geno, I assume that you are trying to be hurtful towards me, which begs the question, if being a grandfather (which I am not) is insulting, why do you (or did you) hate your grandfather so much. Tell me that Geno. Every time you try to insult me with that word, you are insulting your own grandfather.

Regardless, Geno, none of your (lame) attempts to insult me changes the fact that you are a racist and you hate all Jews. Zionist or not.

I have stuck with this same nickname for this whole time and you're onto 4 or 5 so far.
This week I'm calling you grandpa for your ancient views on race and your total ineptitude with computers and this forum.
Next week? We'll see what you do.

 
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Lets see. One side's prisoners are taken for their actions and had their names, locations and status disclosed to multiple international organizations. The other side kidnapped people solely for being somewhere they could access and is refusing not only to allow access to the Red Cross but to even acknowledge who they have.
One side is anally raping prisoners to death with hot metal rods.

 
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Did the Jews start killing civilian germans? you seem to give Hamas excuse to kill civilians again...
No, rich, this is about whether you think Palestinians have basic human rights, including the right to use violent resistance against an illegal occupation.
Do you accept that they have this right?
 
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richaceg

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No, rich, this is about whether you think Palestinians have basic human rights, including the right to use violent resistance against an illegal occupation.
Do you accept that they have this right?
Palestinians have rights....we're not talking about palestinians...we're talking about the terrorists that hides behind them....why do you always shift the conversation to Palestinians? both palestinians and israeli civilians are victims of Hamas atrocities...
 

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Palestinians have rights....we're not talking about palestinians...we're talking about the terrorists that hides behind them....why do you always shift the conversation to Palestinians? both palestinians and israeli civilians are victims of Hamas atrocities...
Hamas are Palestinians, rich.
You can't use that as an excuse to strip Palestinians of their right to self defence against an illegal occupation.
Do you think Palestinians have the right to self defence or not?
 

richaceg

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Hamas are Palestinians, rich.
You can't use that as an excuse to strip Palestinians of their right to self defence against an illegal occupation.
Do you think Palestinians have the right to self defence or not?
are palestinians hamas?
 
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