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shack said:
How can you possibly say that you did not explain what the word everything means? There it is in black and white.

You interpreted his words to mean more than a single person. "More than a single person" were NOT his exact words. He never used them. Only you did. You (falsely) interpreted.
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The word "Everything" has a literal meaning. That meaning does not have to be interpreted in anyway.

Interpreting is giving meaning to something, that is not readily apparent, using supporting information and context. For example, the Likud charter that says - "From the river to the sea there will only be Israeli sovereignty" - is a genocidal slogan even though there is no explicit mention of "eliminating everything". In this case we are interpreting this slogan based on Israeli state policy and actions.

"We will eliminate everything" however needs no such interpretation. It's meaning and intent to commit genocide is crystal clear.
 
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Valcazar said:
Oh Butler.
You aren't silly enough to think this is how I would try to persuade voters do you?
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We should all have a more conversational tone. The whole "I'm not going to break with the team" on issues or events doesn't lend itself to having real conversations.

So yes, I think some members think they are making some contribution to a cause and that would mean some think they are persuading.
 
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WyattEarp said:
We should all have a more conversational tone. The whole "I'm not going to break with the team" on issues or events doesn't lend itself to having real conversations.

So yes, I think some members think they are making some contribution to a cause and that would mean some think they are persuading.
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That would get in the way of his lectures
 
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Kautilya said:
Israeli hostage vs Palestinian hostage. Before and after captivity.
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Lets see. One side's prisoners are taken for their actions and had their names, locations and status disclosed to multiple international organizations. The other side kidnapped people solely for being somewhere they could access and is refusing not only to allow access to the Red Cross but to even acknowledge who they have.
 
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basketcase said:
Lets see. One side's prisoners are taken for their actions and had their names, locations and status disclosed to multiple international organizations. The other side kidnapped people solely for being somewhere they could access and is refusing not only to allow access to the Red Cross but to even acknowledge who they have.
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Nope. Facts disagree with you. Both sides take hostages. Palestinian detainees are held without due process, are subject to torture, children and women are subject to rape and sexual assault by Israeli authorities and security forces. So they are by definition hostages. Not prisoners. I will venture to say that in this case Hamas treats hostages better than the "most moral army in the world". The IDF and other security agencies in Israel have no honour.
 
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Kautilya said:
The word "Everything" has a literal meaning. That meaning does not have to be interpreted in anyway.

Interpreting is giving meaning to something, that is not readily apparent, using supporting information and context. For example, the Likud charter that says - "From the river to the sea there will only be Israeli sovereignty" - is a genocidal slogan even though there is no explicit mention of "eliminating everything". In this case we are interpreting this slogan based on Israeli state policy and actions.

"We will eliminate everything" however needs no such interpretation. It's meaning and intent to commit genocide is crystal clear.
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You've descended too far for me to chase you down there.

People can see the discussion for themselves.
 
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richaceg said:
It will end when Palestinians get their own state and focus on improving their lives, not trying to eliminate their neighbors from the river to the sea...that motto doesn't end well for the Palestinians....as history should've taught them...
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They aren't 'neighbours'.
They are the people that stole their homes and are living in them.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1800259067132195088
 
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richaceg said:
Did Hamas value the lives of Palestinians? You should start there...what were they trying to achieve slaughtering 1200 israelis?
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Yes, Hamas was responding to the 238 settler terrorist attacks on Palestinians in 2023 along with the storming of the Al Aqsa, on behalf of Palestinians.
As they did in 2021 as well, for similar reasons.

The only difference is that this time they got beyond the concentration camp because its likely Netanyahu allowed them so he could start a war.

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shack said:
Is this your new nickname for me, Geno? How many bad ones have you abandoned so far? LOL.

Geno, I assume that you are trying to be hurtful towards me, which begs the question, if being a grandfather (which I am not) is insulting, why do you (or did you) hate your grandfather so much. Tell me that Geno. Every time you try to insult me with that word, you are insulting your own grandfather.

Regardless, Geno, none of your (lame) attempts to insult me changes the fact that you are a racist and you hate all Jews. Zionist or not.

I have stuck with this same nickname for this whole time and you're onto 4 or 5 so far.
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This week I'm calling you grandpa for your ancient views on race and your total ineptitude with computers and this forum.
Next week? We'll see what you do.

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basketcase said:
Lets see. One side's prisoners are taken for their actions and had their names, locations and status disclosed to multiple international organizations. The other side kidnapped people solely for being somewhere they could access and is refusing not only to allow access to the Red Cross but to even acknowledge who they have.
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One side is anally raping prisoners to death with hot metal rods.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1799901069733920782
 
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