But you think that the anomaly would be the same for the surface of the planet and 10km up in the troposphere.
Case closed.
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Case closed.
case wide open
You do not understand the difference between temperature and temperature change (temperature anomoly
Too bad you dropped out of high school
a temperature anomaly of 1 degree is the same for the surface of the planet and 10km up in the troposphere and for the sea surface.
a 1 degree c change = a 1 degree C change be it measured in a solid, liquid or gas, be it measured in Toronto, Nunavik, Paris, a farmers field in Brazil, the north pole, the south pole , at the top of mount Everest, in the troposphere , in the stratosphere , in the mesosphere , on the moon or in deep space
the Satellite temperature anomalies are confirmed by the weather balloon temperature anomalies observations
Are you going to argue the scientist have been sending millions of weather balloons aloft for 100+ years have been wasting their time.... because "Frank footer the bullshit artist says so?
the Satellite temperature anomalies are confirmed and are valid for comparison to the bloody mess that is the surface data record.
get use to it and learn something
now you answer a question
explain how an Atmospheric Gas CO2 manages to heat up the surface faster than the Atmosphere ?
be sure to explain how your morons theory obeys the laws of Thermodynamics , the Stephan Law and conservation of energy
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do not misrepresent me
i admitted no such thing
stop with the pathological lying
its not a debate
a debate requires intelligence and scientific understanding.... you do not qualify
your AGW climate change delusion is falling apart
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The idiotic part is your insistence that the anomaly will be the same on the surface as it will be 10km in the atmosphere, larue, combined with your chart with the troposphere satellite numbers you think are better but are for some reason just stopped in 2012. Why? Because they adjusted the satellites to correct for orbital drift and the anomaly aligns much better with surface temps, though of course its different since its the troposphere.case wide open
You do not understand the difference between temperature and temperature change (temperature anomoly
Too bad you dropped out of high school
a temperature anomaly of 1 degree is the same for the surface of the planet and 10km up in the troposphere and for the sea surface.
a 1 degree c change = a 1 degree C change be it measured in a solid, liquid or gas, be it measured in Toronto, Nunavik, Paris, a farmers field in Brazil, the north pole, the south pole , at the top of mount Everest, in the troposphere , in the stratosphere , in the mesosphere , on the moon or in deep space
the Satellite temperature anomalies are confirmed by the weather balloon temperature anomalies observations
Are you going to argue the scientist have been sending millions of weather balloons aloft for 100+ years have been wasting their time.... because "Frank footer the bullshit artist says so?
the Satellite temperature anomalies are confirmed and are valid for comparison to the bloody mess that is the surface data record.
get use to it and learn something
now you answer a question
explain how an Atmospheric Gas CO2 manages to heat up the surface faster than the Atmosphere ?
be sure to explain how your morons theory obeys the laws of Thermodynamics , the Stephan Law and conservation of energy
Clearly you can't even read your chart or you would be asking yourself why those satellite numbers were stopped in 2012.
But you can't understand what you post.
look dropout ,
a 1 degree c change = a 1 degree C change be it measured in a solid, liquid or gas, be it measured in Toronto, Nunavik, Paris, a farmers field in Brazil, the north pole, the south pole , at the top of mount Everest, in the troposphere , in the stratosphere , in the mesosphere , on the moon or in deep space
FYI this is taught in grade 10, so you can blame your scientific ignorance on your decision to drop out of high school
the Satellite temperature anomalies are confirmed and are valid for comparison to the bloody mess that is the surface data record.
get use to it and learn something
now you answer a question
explain how an Atmospheric Gas CO2 manages to heat up the surface faster than the Atmosphere ?
be sure to explain how your morons theory obeys the laws of Thermodynamics , the Stephan Law and conservation of energy
You're still missing the point.
Yes, you can measure change in different places but no, that change will not be the same on the surface as it will be at 10km up in the air.
Like you think if you put your hand over a candle and reported the anomaly after blowing the candle out. With your hand right over the candle you'd notice a massive shift in temperature but if you were 10m away and blew that candle out you'd notice almost no difference.
Surface vs troposphere
But even more importantly, lets look at your chart and why it stops at 2012.
Note that, as usual, you are rehashing debunked, 6 year old claims.
You picked a chart that is beyond your ability to follow, you didn't notice it was troposphere, are still unable to understand why its important unable to understand why the data is stopped at 2012.
You have no clue what you are talking about, larue.
Charts that plot recent satellite data show as much warming as you'd expect in the troposphere, which is some, but not nearly as much as on the surface where its 5-10ºC warmer.
That's because the people who study the climate and know what is coming think humanity has severely messed up the planet.
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You're still missing the point.
Yes, you can measure change in different places but no, that change will not be the same on the surface as it will be at 10km up in the air.
Like you think if you put your hand over a candle and reported the anomaly after blowing the candle out. With your hand right over the candle you'd notice a massive shift in temperature but if you were 10m away and blew that candle out you'd notice almost no difference.
Surface vs troposphere
But even more importantly, lets look at your chart and why it stops at 2012.
Note that, as usual, you are rehashing debunked, 6 year old claims.
yes it is, you blithering fool
a 1 degree c change = a 1 degree C change be it measured in a solid, liquid or gas, be it measured in Toronto, Nunavik, Paris, a farmers field in Brazil, the north pole, the south pole , at the top of mount Everest, in the troposphere , in the stratosphere , in the mesosphere , on the moon or in deep space
you do not even understand the greenhouse gas theory
google search
case closed
explain how an Atmospheric Gas CO2 manages to heat up the surface faster than the Atmosphere ?
be sure to explain how your morons theory obeys the laws of Thermodynamics , the Stephan Law and conservation of energy
you climate models are junk as is all the propaganda based on them
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You do realize that you would fail grade 10 science with your failed theories about the greenhouse effect and warming.
Your attempt to use apple and orange comparisons between surface and troposphere would fail.
Your use of intentionally out of date charts would fail.
You would fail high school science, larue.
my diplomas, degrees say otherwise
you are a science know nothing , high school drop out
you do not even understand the greenhouse gas theory
yet you have been a lying, abusive, obnoxious pusher of false propaganda on the subject
life has a way of evening the score on despicable people.
you will have a lot to answer for
google search
case closed
explain how an Atmospheric Gas CO2 manages to heat up the surface faster than the Atmosphere ?
be sure to explain how your morons theory obeys the laws of Thermodynamics , the Stephan Law and conservation of energy
you climate models are junk as is all the propaganda based on them
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You are the one here claiming increasing CO2 will not warm the planet through the greenhouse effect.
That fails you in high school and makes you a laughing stock to all scientists.
What was your degree in, phys ed?
that's right ......saturation of the 15 micron wavelength
C02 has been at 4, 000 ppm and life on the planet thrived
our climate system is far too complex to be controlled by a trace gas at 400 parts per million
the blue planet is 70% covered in water, natures universal coolant
Ahh. ....... No
??? How the hell would you know what is tested in high school ? you dropped out to avoid the tests , you know fuzzy math & logic
wrong again
wacked out fear mongering irrational, dishonest activists are likely not big fans, but I do not let that deprive me of any sleep
wrong again
degrees not degree
science requires attention to detail, and reading comprehension frankfooter
your decision to drop out of high school was a poor decision
why are you always wrong ?
don't you get tired of being wrong all the god damn time ?
explain how an Atmospheric Gas CO2 manages to heat up the surface faster than the Atmosphere ?
be sure to explain how your morons theory obeys the laws of Thermodynamics , the Stephan Law and conservation of energy
note how the satellite anomalies have been independently verified by weather balloon anomalies
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What was the temperature of the planet when CO2 levels were 4,000 ppm, larue?
yes the catastrophic AGW theory is proving to be more and more wacko everyday
speaking of wackos
