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JohnLarue

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again you seem very confused about simple concepts such as singular vs. plural
that concept was taught to you in grade school long before you dropped out
you must have that kid who was sitting in the back of the class eating the Elmer's paste glue rather than learning
 

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again you seem very confused about simple concepts such as singular vs. plural
that concept was taught to you in grade school long before you dropped out
you must have that kid who was sitting in the back of the class eating the Elmer's paste glue rather than learning
Clearly you can't have a degree in the sciences.
Definitely not in eng lit, or anything in the humanities or arts.
So its most likely phys ed.
 

JohnLarue

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Clearly you can't have a degree in the sciences.
Definitely not in eng lit, or anything in the humanities or arts.
So its most likely phys ed.

too funny
know many phys ed grads who are able to describe the absorption mechanism of electromagnetic radiation by organic molecules with dipole moments?
you are not very bright
 

Frankfooter

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too funny
know many phys ed grads who are able to describe the absorption mechanism of electromagnetic radiation by organic molecules with dipole moments?
you are not very bright
Do I know any chemical engineers with real degrees who think the greenhouse effect isn't real?
There's no way you could pass with your theories.
 

JohnLarue

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Do I know any chemical engineers with real degrees who think the greenhouse effect isn't real?
I have never stated the greenhouse theory is invalid
water vapour has a dipole moment and absorbs infrared radiation at multiple frequencies

water is such an amazing molecule >> Natures universal temperature regulator

catastrophic AGW is however not at all supported by empirical evidence

why would I point out the greenhouse effect is almost entirely occurring in the troposphere if the greenhouse theory was invalid ?
you really should stop misrepresenting others.... that is the behaviour of an ill mannered child

There's no way you could pass with your theories.
too funny
what makes you think the physical laws of nature I agree with are my theories ?
I can not take credit for the work of Plank, Stephan , Boltzmann and so many other brilliant scientists

you are not very bright
 
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Frankfooter

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I have never stated the greenhouse theory is invalid
water vapour has a dipole moment and absorbs infrared radiation at multiple frequencies
You continue to deny that the increase in CO2 in the atmosphere is linked to increases in global surface temperature.

 

JohnLarue

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You continue to deny that the increase in CO2 in the atmosphere is linked to increases in global surface temperature.

water vapour is the dominate greenhouse gas
Co2 is a bit player and the all important 15 micrometer absorption wavelength is saturated

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the global surface temperature record is a mess
it
a)is filled with errors
b) is biased by the urban island heat effect
c) is grossly incomplete (70% of the surface is oceans)
d) has been fiddled with
e) is not representative of where the greenhouse effect occurs (i.e. in the troposphere)

use a mess as the input to models and you will get a mess as the output

what is the output of climate models ?
A mess
a mess used to generate, evil , intentionally misleading propaganda

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Frankfooter

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water vapour is the dominate greenhouse gas
Co2 is a bit player and the all important 15 micrometer absorption wavelength is saturated
Like I said, there is no way you could have a degree in chemistry or chemical engineering with idiotic ideas like this, larue.
Failing to understand the difference between forcing and feedback effects and your wacko personal theory about IR absorption would get you laughed out of university.

I call bullshit on your claims of having a degree in the sciences.
 

JohnLarue

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Like I said, there is no way you could have a degree in chemistry or chemical engineering with idiotic ideas like this, larue.
Failing to understand the difference between forcing and feedback effects and your wacko personal theory about IR absorption would get you laughed out of university.

Which of the following is the dominant greenhouse gas in Earth's atmosphere?
google search
Water vapor


Water vapor is the most abundant greenhouse gas in the atmosphere.Nov 1, 2023
Atmospheric Concentrations of Greenhouse Gases | US EPA
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U.S. Environmental Protection Agency (.gov)
https://www.epa.gov › climate-indicators › climate-chan...
https://www.epa.gov/climate-indicators/climate-change-indicators-atmospheric-concentrations-greenhouse-gases#:~:text=Water vapor is the most abundant greenhouse gas in the atmosphere.

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"absorption of outgoing thermal radiation by water vapour creates most of the earths natural greenhouse effect"


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saturated forcings
I call bullshit on your claims of having a degree in the sciences.
but you are a fool who dropped out of high school
nobody cares what you call bullshit on
 
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Frankfooter

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google search
https://www.epa.gov/climate-indicators/climate-change-indicators-atmospheric-concentrations-greenhouse-gases#:~:text=Water vapor is the most abundant greenhouse gas in the atmosphere.

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"absorption of outgoing thermal radiation by water vapour creates most of the earths natural greenhouse effect"


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saturated forcings

but you are a fool who dropped out of high school
nobody cares what you call bullshit on
Like I said, larue, you don't understand the difference between forcing and feedback effects in the climate.
Its why you don't understand the greenhouse effect and why you'd be failed in science programs at university or even high school.

Water vapour is a feedback effect
CO2 is a forcing effect

One reacts to changes the other causes changes.
 

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Like I said, larue, you don't understand the difference between forcing and feedback effects in the climate.
Its why you don't understand the greenhouse effect and why you'd be failed in science programs at university or even high school.

Water vapour is a feedback effect
CO2 is a forcing effect

One reacts to changes the other causes changes.
How do wet cow farts factor into all of this? Feedback or forcing, or both?

I say both based on your description. Thoughts?
 

Frankfooter

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How do wet cow farts factor into all of this? Feedback or forcing, or both?

I say both based on your description. Thoughts?
I encourage you to continue your deep research into the matter, but quietly, don't bring it up.
People will laugh.
 

JohnLarue

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Like I said, larue, you don't understand the difference between forcing and feedback effects in the climate.
Its why you don't understand the greenhouse effect and why you'd be failed in science programs at university or even high school.

Water vapour is a feedback effect
CO2 is a forcing effect

One reacts to changes the other causes changes.
1/3 of 1% does not drive the other 99.7% ,
do not be ridiculous
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JohnLarue

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]Like I said, larue, you don't understand the difference between forcing and feedback effects in the climate.
Its why you don't understand the greenhouse effect and why you'd be failed in science programs at university or even high school.
go finish high school

Water vapour is a feedback effect
CO2 is a forcing effect

One reacts to changes the other causes changes.
a 15 micron wavelength photon travelling at the speed of light does not stop to ask the molecule in its path if it is a forcing molecule or a feedback only molecule
because the fool frankfooter says so ? I do not think so

Water vapour is the dominate Greenhouse gas responsible for 95% of the greenhouse effect
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Its called the blue planet for a reason
there is water (natures universal temperature moderator) just about everywhere




400 parts per million CO2 does not drive this

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nor does it drive this

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Frankfooter

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a 15 micron wavelength photon travelling at the speed of light does not stop to ask the molecule in its path if it is a forcing molecule or a feedback only molecule
because the fool frankfooter says so ? I do not think so
Clearly you failed all sciences and couldn't possibly have any degree in sciences.
If you can't understand the difference between forcing and feedback you really have no business in these discussions.
Go back to high school and learn the basics.
 
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