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JohnLarue

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You continue to deny that the increase in CO2 in the atmosphere is linked to increases in global surface temperature.

water vapour is the dominate greenhouse gas
Co2 is a bit player and the all important 15 micrometer absorption wavelength is saturated

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the global surface temperature record is a mess
it
a)is filled with errors
b) is biased by the urban island heat effect
c) is grossly incomplete (70% of the surface is oceans)
d) has been fiddled with
e) is not representative of where the greenhouse effect occurs (i.e. in the troposphere)

use a mess as the input to models and you will get a mess as the output

what is the output of climate models ?
A mess
a mess used to generate, evil , intentionally misleading propaganda

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Frankfooter

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water vapour is the dominate greenhouse gas
Co2 is a bit player and the all important 15 micrometer absorption wavelength is saturated
Like I said, there is no way you could have a degree in chemistry or chemical engineering with idiotic ideas like this, larue.
Failing to understand the difference between forcing and feedback effects and your wacko personal theory about IR absorption would get you laughed out of university.

I call bullshit on your claims of having a degree in the sciences.
 

JohnLarue

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Like I said, there is no way you could have a degree in chemistry or chemical engineering with idiotic ideas like this, larue.
Failing to understand the difference between forcing and feedback effects and your wacko personal theory about IR absorption would get you laughed out of university.

Which of the following is the dominant greenhouse gas in Earth's atmosphere?
google search
Water vapor


Water vapor is the most abundant greenhouse gas in the atmosphere.Nov 1, 2023
Atmospheric Concentrations of Greenhouse Gases | US EPA
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U.S. Environmental Protection Agency (.gov)
https://www.epa.gov › climate-indicators › climate-chan...
https://www.epa.gov/climate-indicators/climate-change-indicators-atmospheric-concentrations-greenhouse-gases#:~:text=Water vapor is the most abundant greenhouse gas in the atmosphere.

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"absorption of outgoing thermal radiation by water vapour creates most of the earths natural greenhouse effect"


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saturated forcings
I call bullshit on your claims of having a degree in the sciences.
but you are a fool who dropped out of high school
nobody cares what you call bullshit on
 
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https://www.epa.gov/climate-indicators/climate-change-indicators-atmospheric-concentrations-greenhouse-gases#:~:text=Water vapor is the most abundant greenhouse gas in the atmosphere.

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"absorption of outgoing thermal radiation by water vapour creates most of the earths natural greenhouse effect"


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saturated forcings

but you are a fool who dropped out of high school
nobody cares what you call bullshit on
Like I said, larue, you don't understand the difference between forcing and feedback effects in the climate.
Its why you don't understand the greenhouse effect and why you'd be failed in science programs at university or even high school.

Water vapour is a feedback effect
CO2 is a forcing effect

One reacts to changes the other causes changes.
 

Skoob

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Like I said, larue, you don't understand the difference between forcing and feedback effects in the climate.
Its why you don't understand the greenhouse effect and why you'd be failed in science programs at university or even high school.

Water vapour is a feedback effect
CO2 is a forcing effect

One reacts to changes the other causes changes.
How do wet cow farts factor into all of this? Feedback or forcing, or both?

I say both based on your description. Thoughts?
 

JohnLarue

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Like I said, larue, you don't understand the difference between forcing and feedback effects in the climate.
Its why you don't understand the greenhouse effect and why you'd be failed in science programs at university or even high school.

Water vapour is a feedback effect
CO2 is a forcing effect

One reacts to changes the other causes changes.
1/3 of 1% does not drive the other 99.7% ,
do not be ridiculous
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JohnLarue

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]Like I said, larue, you don't understand the difference between forcing and feedback effects in the climate.
Its why you don't understand the greenhouse effect and why you'd be failed in science programs at university or even high school.
go finish high school

Water vapour is a feedback effect
CO2 is a forcing effect

One reacts to changes the other causes changes.
a 15 micron wavelength photon travelling at the speed of light does not stop to ask the molecule in its path if it is a forcing molecule or a feedback only molecule
because the fool frankfooter says so ? I do not think so

Water vapour is the dominate Greenhouse gas responsible for 95% of the greenhouse effect
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Its called the blue planet for a reason
there is water (natures universal temperature moderator) just about everywhere




400 parts per million CO2 does not drive this

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nor does it drive this

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Frankfooter

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a 15 micron wavelength photon travelling at the speed of light does not stop to ask the molecule in its path if it is a forcing molecule or a feedback only molecule
because the fool frankfooter says so ? I do not think so
Clearly you failed all sciences and couldn't possibly have any degree in sciences.
If you can't understand the difference between forcing and feedback you really have no business in these discussions.
Go back to high school and learn the basics.
 

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Insidious Von

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Let Canadian MAGA teeth gnashing begin.

Greta Thunberg may become a future Catherine McKenna. She now owns a consulting firm on green energy, can't wait for the comments.


Where's Faith Goldy when you need her.
 

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Ghawar
Would this move of Greta finally bring global emission down?

Since Greta came into the limelight people mostly celebrities
and politicians in positions of power and influence who take
her side have exploited the climate movement for profits, political
gains or mere attention in public. Off the top of my head I can
think of Larry Fink, Bill Gates, Rainn Wilson, Leonardo DiCaprio
Justin Trudeau, Nicola Sturgeon, Jacinda Arden, Anthony Albanese
and so forth. Pretty much none of these people did ever manage
to bring down carbon emission for real. I can see that Greta's
involvement in the green energy business could end up pushing
global emission higher.
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Australia’s hypocrisy over new climate pact while refusing to stop burning fossil fuels
May 10 2024

On Thursday 9 May, Australia unveiled plans to keep burning gas beyond 2050. They claim this would not affect their pledge to reach net zero emissions by that date, as laid out by the UN. However, environmental groups are outraged and branded it a “climate disaster’’.
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Australia has pledged to reach net zero emissions by 2050. They recently publicised plans to overhaul its economy with ‘massive investments’ in clean energy production.

Obviously, environmental groups were quick to shoot the strategy down. Jennifer Rayner, advocacy head for the Australian non-profit Climate Council, said the government needed to make a choice between gas or renewable energy:
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https://www.thecanary.co/global/world-analysis/2024/05/10/australia-gas-climate/
 

JohnLarue

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Let Canadian MAGA right teeth gnashing begin.
laughing at the left does not require any teeth gnashing

why do the left find inspiration from two bimbos ?

Greta Thunberg may become a future Catherine McKenna. She now owns a consulting firm on green energy, can't wait for the comments.
why do the left think its ok to have two bimbos tell the left what to think and then charge the taxpayer for the spewing of ideology and unachievable goals ?

consulting firms charge for expert analysis and advise
advertising / PR firms charge for disseminating/ promoting a narrative / product / image
 

Frankfooter

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laughing at the left does not require any teeth gnashing

why do the left find inspiration from two bimbos ?



why do the left think its ok to have two bimbos tell the left what to think and then charge the taxpayer for the spewing of ideology and unachievable goals ?

consulting firms charge for expert analysis and advise
advertising / PR firms charge for disseminating/ promoting a narrative / product / image
You still can't even understand the greenhouse effect, larue.
Why do you think you understand anything else?

 

Insidious Von

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Johnny LaRue must hate women, Catherine McKenna, Melanie Joly and Rona Ambrose are all bimbos in his eyes.

I do agree with him that climate change policy has been made unachievable by politicians. They are to obsessed with votes to risk the standard of living that fossil fuel gifts. They've become a bunch of James Buchanans, passing the buck until there is blood.

JL is that you leading that bunch of incel saps.?

 
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