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shack

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Your view is nothing extraordinary or new. This is common knowledge that the US and Israel are allies and share a special relationship, because of which Israeli interests are American interests. Where you are wrong is that this can be replaced by another. It cannot.
And that has consistently been my point. NOBODY can provide to the US what Israel does. Any lobbying money is a pittance in comparison and is therefore irrelevant.. (Waiting for you to tell me that my point is irrelevant.)

The middle east Arab lobby can never outspend the Israeli lobby because the Israeli lobby is richer, more global and already owns US politicians.
That is laughable at best and pure anti-Semitic, racist stereotyping (Jews control world banks, Hollywood, death stars) as a reality. How much does the Israeli lobby spend?

Regardless, as we just agreed, money is an extremely small factor. It is the relationship of these allies with common interests that is the overarching factor.
 
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Calling Israel's bombardment of Gaza with no real strategy or goal, genius, is unintelligent.
Oh man! That statement is a perfect example of what you just characterized.
 
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And that has consistently been my point. NOBODY can provide to the US what Israel does. Any lobbying money is a pittance in comparison and is therefore irrelevant.. (Waiting for you to tell me that my point is irrelevant.)


That is laughable at best and pure anti-Semitic, racist stereotyping (Jews control world banks, Hollywood, death stars) as a reality. How much does the Israeli lobby spend?

Regardless, as we just agreed, money is an extremely small factor. It is the relationship of these allies with common interests that is the overarching factor.
Confused
 

Kautilya

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And that has consistently been my point. NOBODY can provide to the US what Israel does. Any lobbying money is a pittance in comparison and is therefore irrelevant.. (Waiting for you to tell me that my point is irrelevant.)
I agree that Israel controls US politicians via their lobby groups. Anyway this is common knowledge so not in debate.
That is laughable at best and pure anti-Semitic, racist stereotyping (Jews control world banks, Hollywood, death stars) as a reality. How much does the Israeli lobby spend?
Oh it is true. The lobby groups even write legislation for the US. These are facts and have nothing to do with religion, so calling them antisemitic is just a distraction. The word antisemitic is meaningless today.
Oh man! That statement is a perfect example of what you just characterized.
Tell me you dont have a response without telling me you dont have a response. The Israelis agree with my statement. This is the reason for mounting anti-govt anger, riots and violence in Israel itself.
 
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shack

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Yes, your wiki link confirmed the video I posted with someone calling themselves the 'chosen people'.
Do you think Palestinians have all those rights or do you think they are 'lesser humans' or 'human animals' or 'vermin'?
I've never ever called the Palestinian people any of those horrible things so I can't answer.

But to answer you question, speak to the person who has done so.
I think there is an exception for all chosen people, they can do no wrong and slaughtering lesser humans is part of their path of righteousness.
 

shack

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You think genocide is genius?
Sorry Geno. As always your inability to comprehend is a major flaw for you. Nowhere did I say that genocide is genius.

I said, "Israel, positioning themselves to deal with Hamas with impunity, is genius."

Actually, I think you did comprehend. You just like to intentionally misquote/misinterpret because debating honourably is something that you cannot bring yourself to do.
 

shack

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You're cheering on attacking Jews now, hammy.
Your zionism is now attacking Jews.
We were talking about comparing Israel's world standing in this war compared to that of Germany's in 1945. Please stay on topic instead jumping all over the place.
 

shack

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Deflection
Amoeba, FYI, deflecting is when you change topics which I did not do. But when all one can provide is a single-celled reply, proper communication can be somewhat restricted.
 

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I've never ever called the Palestinian people any of those horrible things so I can't answer.

But to answer you question, speak to the person who has done so.
Me either, lets see who has.
Part 1) chosen people, who uses that term?

Part 2) 'lesser humans' or 'human animals', who uses that term.

Part 3) who on this board has repeatedly argued that Palestinians don't deserve the full human rights we give all humans on this planet?
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As we all know, EVERYBODY HATES ZIONISTS. THEY ARE THE NEW NAZIS.
And why?
The plague spreading vermin need to be eradicated and the whole civilized world know it.
I'm already a racist. I support genocide. I support apartheid. I support colonialism.
 
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The only thing Israel provides the US are police state tactics.
You are flailing. This is a protest in Germany Were those American police?

This has nothing to do with Israel, as an ally of the US, protecting American interests in the Middle East.
 

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You are flailing. This is a protest in Germany Were those American police?

This has nothing to do with Israel, as an ally of the US, protecting American interests in the Middle East.
All Israel gives the US is hate, racism and police state tactics

 
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Butler provided his own imaginary scenarios that have no basis in history of this particular conflict, and are therefore off topic, and as such require no further discussion, as that would derail the thread. My predictions about what may transpire in Gaza are more in line with reality and history, something you'd be wise to learn from which could possibly help you see the reality of the genocide Israel is committing in Gaza. And no, I am not supposed to do anything.

No he did not infer that. His comment was in the context of this thread and in the context of Israel and Palestine. You imagined that and ended up pretzeling yourself.
The history is Israel continues to gain ground, add settlements and further hem them in. Cripes that's what you all continue to bitch about!

This is just the next steps.
 

Kautilya

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The history is Israel continues to gain ground, add settlements and further hem them in. Cripes that's what you all continue to bitch about!

This is just the next steps.
Yes. That is why it is an occupation.
 
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