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Which is why context matters. You are talking about Israel/Palestine, in the Israel thread. The chosen people therefore refers to Jews. The thread, and the context of your discussion are the qualifiers and any attempt to say otherwise is you pretzeling yourself for the 1,329,567th time on this thread.
The context is that Geno inferred that Jews are the ONLY people calling themselves "the chosen people" in the post where shamelessly called Palestinians "lesser humans".

I gave a clear and direct replies which was sourced which disproved his claim.

Once again, you show how little you know about debate and how you will pretzel to the Nth degree and still prove nothing. There is no context to consider. He asked and I answered.
 

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What, now you think occupiers should pay for rebuilding land when they disagree?
The latest I heard was a $40 billion price for rebuilding Gaza.
You gonna send some cash?
Please stay on topic.

The discussion was on the student protests on American campuses. Trying to make a comparison to Israel/Gaza is not valid. The students are guilty of vandalism.
 
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Sure, just as Germany was winning in 1945, buddy.
How many countries are joining forces to invade Israel the way the allies joined forces to invade Germany?

Nobody is doing anything to lift a finger to physically help the Pali cause and they can't even get anything done in the courts or the UN. All they can do is illegally block streets and camp out under the stars.

Another failed analogy Geno.
 
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How many countries are joining forces to invade Israel the way the allies joined forces to invade Germany?

Nobody is doing anything to lift a finger to physically help the Pali cause and they can't even get anything done in the courts or the UN. All they can do is illegally block streets and camp out under the stars.

Another failed analogy Geno.
You're cheering on attacking Jews now, hammy.
Your zionism is now attacking Jews.



 

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Butler provided his own imaginary scenarios that have no basis in history of this particular conflict, and are therefore off topic and as such require no further discussion, as that would derail the thread.,
Klassic Kaut. "I don't have facts. I don't have a rebuttal. Therefore let's discard valid points and claim they are irrelevant." You are soo predictable.

My predictions about what may transpire in Gaza are more in line with reality and history, something you'd be wise to learn from which could possibly help you see the reality of the genocide Israel is committing in Gaza.
The talk was about how the powers that be would deal with the Gaza situation. Butler gave his opinions with validation and you did not address it at all.

And no, I am not supposed to do anything.
You have been successful.
 
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Further proof that the occupation was stupid, the blockade was stupid, apartheid was stupid, genocide was stupid and zionism stupid and evil.
The Gazans are paying for the stupidity of Hamas' attack of Oct.7.

Israel, positioning themselves to deal with Hamas with impunity, is genius.
 

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Your view is nothing extraordinary or new. This is common knowledge that the US and Israel are allies and share a special relationship, because of which Israeli interests are American interests. Where you are wrong is that this can be replaced by another. It cannot.
And that has consistently been my point. NOBODY can provide to the US what Israel does. Any lobbying money is a pittance in comparison and is therefore irrelevant.. (Waiting for you to tell me that my point is irrelevant.)

The middle east Arab lobby can never outspend the Israeli lobby because the Israeli lobby is richer, more global and already owns US politicians.
That is laughable at best and pure anti-Semitic, racist stereotyping (Jews control world banks, Hollywood, death stars) as a reality. How much does the Israeli lobby spend?

Regardless, as we just agreed, money is an extremely small factor. It is the relationship of these allies with common interests that is the overarching factor.
 
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And that has consistently been my point. NOBODY can provide to the US what Israel does. Any lobbying money is a pittance in comparison and is therefore irrelevant.. (Waiting for you to tell me that my point is irrelevant.)


That is laughable at best and pure anti-Semitic, racist stereotyping (Jews control world banks, Hollywood, death stars) as a reality. How much does the Israeli lobby spend?

Regardless, as we just agreed, money is an extremely small factor. It is the relationship of these allies with common interests that is the overarching factor.
Confused
 

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Yes, your wiki link confirmed the video I posted with someone calling themselves the 'chosen people'.
Do you think Palestinians have all those rights or do you think they are 'lesser humans' or 'human animals' or 'vermin'?
I've never ever called the Palestinian people any of those horrible things so I can't answer.

But to answer you question, speak to the person who has done so.
I think there is an exception for all chosen people, they can do no wrong and slaughtering lesser humans is part of their path of righteousness.
 

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You think genocide is genius?
Sorry Geno. As always your inability to comprehend is a major flaw for you. Nowhere did I say that genocide is genius.

I said, "Israel, positioning themselves to deal with Hamas with impunity, is genius."

Actually, I think you did comprehend. You just like to intentionally misquote/misinterpret because debating honourably is something that you cannot bring yourself to do.
 

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You're cheering on attacking Jews now, hammy.
Your zionism is now attacking Jews.
We were talking about comparing Israel's world standing in this war compared to that of Germany's in 1945. Please stay on topic instead jumping all over the place.
 

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I've never ever called the Palestinian people any of those horrible things so I can't answer.

But to answer you question, speak to the person who has done so.
Me either, lets see who has.
Part 1) chosen people, who uses that term?

Part 2) 'lesser humans' or 'human animals', who uses that term.

Part 3) who on this board has repeatedly argued that Palestinians don't deserve the full human rights we give all humans on this planet?
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The summary:
As we all know, EVERYBODY HATES ZIONISTS. THEY ARE THE NEW NAZIS.
And why?
The plague spreading vermin need to be eradicated and the whole civilized world know it.
I'm already a racist. I support genocide. I support apartheid. I support colonialism.
 
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The only thing Israel provides the US are police state tactics.
You are flailing. This is a protest in Germany Were those American police?

This has nothing to do with Israel, as an ally of the US, protecting American interests in the Middle East.
 
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